996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Bye Bye PSS9s...

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Bye Bye PSS9s...

And hello Motons.. We've been doing a few of these "upgrades" lately and I think we're going to start our own Moton "club". I have to say with the aggressive spring rates these things are something else. I was with the owner following behind his car whilst it was on a test drive and just seeing it corner was pretty amazing. We set the shocks up pretty neutral until the alignment but it was taking corners at speeds that PSS9s' would obviously be struggling...

PS Those PSS9s are taken btw
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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The kit we use is the EVO one and it comes with camber plates that allow for an extra 1 degree of negative camber in the front...

http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=22

Don't get me wrong guys the PSS9 kit is still an awesome set up for street 996TT's but I think that the spring rate is a tad low for those that want to track their cars regularily. Don't forget these cars are darned heavy...
 
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Question about the two. It seems on the Motons, the smaller set of springs are on top, whereas the PSS9's the smaller set is below the big springs. Is there any difference to why they do this? Just inquiring. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Batter-up!!! Even with 19s I was pretty darn amazed. You have PS2's as well so it's a good comparo...
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Question about the two. It seems on the Motons, the smaller set of springs are on top, whereas the PSS9's the smaller set is below the big springs. Is there any difference to why they do this? Just inquiring. Thanks
Hey there.. those are just tender springs, there's no real difference in doing it the reverse way
 
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Originally Posted by M3CAB
Question about the two. It seems on the Motons, the smaller set of springs are on top, whereas the PSS9's the smaller set is below the big springs. Is there any difference to why they do this? Just inquiring. Thanks
The little springs are called "tender" springs. As I recall, their job is to soak up the small bumps.

The big springs are called the "main" springs. These do the real work.

IIRC, there is no difference in performance of the two configurations, just differing setups by each manufacturer and I'm not sure if this configuration is the same between different vehicles by the same manufacturer.
 
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Gone is the bouncing effect (pogoing) of the front. The high spring rates are not harsh at all! Still need more seat time ofcourse and tweak the settings a bit more to truly appreciate them. But from the initial ride the difference is night and day and already am a very happy customer.

Thanks to the guys at Sharkwerks for the great setup!

Also, want to give thanks to Mike at AWE for sharing his thoughts and setup recommendations as well.
 
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Gone is the bouncing effect (pogoing) of the front. The high spring rates are not harsh at all! Still need more seat time ofcourse and tweak the settings a bit more to truly appreciate them. But from the initial ride the difference is night and day and already am a very happy customer.

Thanks to the guys at Sharkwerks for the great setup!

Also, want to give thanks to Mike at AWE for sharing his thoughts and setup recommendations as well.
It sure was fun seeing your car take those turns so flat:P Certainly made me dig deeper into my JRZ reserves I think for you because of what you're used to with ground control and the way you drive you'll be so much happier:P

PS See ya' tonight!
 
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It sure was fun seeing your car take those turns so flat:P Certainly made me dig deeper into my JRZ reserves I think for you because of what you're used to with ground control and the way you drive you'll be so much happier:P

PS See ya' tonight!
Dammit these are the exact ones i need as well haha, too bad they're so much $ Oh well, for the summer possibly !
 
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Dammit these are the exact ones i need as well haha, too bad they're so much $ Oh well, for the summer possibly !
I'm actually going to be _shock (pun intended) horror_ selling my JRZs in favor of the motons that are slightly more streetable. makes sense though since we sell/install Motons and can give people rides...
 
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I'm actually going to be _shock (pun intended) horror_ selling my JRZs in favor of the motons that are slightly more streetable. makes sense though since we sell/install Motons and can give people rides...
Which are your JRZ's, im looking for the stiffest most trackable coilovers, well w/e gets the job done basically to make the 996tt an even more insane handler!
 
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Which are your JRZ's, im looking for the stiffest most trackable coilovers, well w/e gets the job done basically to make the 996tt an even more insane handler!
I have the double adjustable ones (aka expensive lol) set up by cary eisenlohr... 900 front 950 rears...
 
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I have the double adjustable ones (aka expensive lol) set up by cary eisenlohr... 900 front 950 rears...
Not bad, im assuming that's the price LOL!
 
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Not bad, im assuming that's the price LOL!
I think that Alex means per corner.
 


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