Scott i know the comment you threw was intended for me. I know you have read all the remarks about that track and by now you should have some more knowledge about it. Apparently you still love to put others down, when all they are doing is stating facts. You should really research into Density Altitude and how it effects cars. Just because you have the fastest tracks in the country running very good times, it gets annoying discrediting others that dont have the oppurtunity like you to race at a great track.

 

No matter what u do... a TT with a 5 bar FPR will run 11.5s... thats it...
some freaky runs will get u into 11.3s and some others 11.9s...
tahst goes for all tuners.. period... I had 3 packages so I know... and I did runs in all of them.
The gt2 is stock except turbos, ecu, exhaust, maybe Vflow( not sure if bajo took it out.). tahst what the car should run with those mods...
add air intake, headers, maybe clutch( liek we all do) and it will run consistant mid 11s...
same goes for the Stage 4 evoms which has the extra parts that this car doesnt... so Im not surprised.
Bajo paid less then $4500 for the upgrade...
thanks for sharing Joe.

 

Renntech, thanks for posting.

I agree that the trap speed numbers are amazing under this heat and considering the only mods that this GT2 has.

This is a 60-130mph run for a Stage 4:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...6&postcount=21

I tried to extrapolate some numbers from the GT2 drag slip that you posted, based on the only 2 readings showing speed and time simultaneously.
The findings are that the stage 4 did a 95-122mph in about 5.5 seconds based on the chart (unless I am mistaken), while this GT2 did the same speed in about 4 seconds based on the time slip, substantially faster, despite the less than optimal conditions. For a <$4500 upgrade, it cannot be beaten.

Very useful information, thanks!
Jean

 

Actually you are comparing 2 different cars under different circumstances. The GT2 is lighter. When my turbo was a stage 4 it still trapped higher at the same track in the same conditions on 19inch wheels, weighing in heavier. As a person who has owned both and tracked both, I can tell you that the Stage4 package DEFINETLY is faster and makes more power than the setup I have on the GT2 right now. With that being said, The GT2 is much better suited for racing and track activities!

 

Congratulations Jean. You managed to take a thread about a 1/4 mile run of a Protomotive tuned GT2 and transform it into criticism of EVOMS. Astonishing!!! Why not simply compliment the Protomotive car on its time, rather than use this as an opportunity to extrapolate comparisons with other, different cars and inferentially criticize tuners that you personally hold in low regard? Moreover, interesting that you choose an unrelated 60-130 run as your reference point (from which you estimated a comparable time) to argue that the Protomotive tuned car is faster, rather than directly comparable Stage 4 ¼ mile times (to the best of my recollection, 1/4 mile times generated by EVOMS Stage IV cars are generally faster than the subject Protomotive car). Additionally, the GT2 has a noteworthy weight advantage that you confeniently declined to mention. IMHO, your efforts in this regard are counter-productive.

Craig

 

just curious........... which would be faster in the 1/4??? GT700 GT2 or a GT700 TT???? I quess what I am shooting for does 4 wheel drive give the car an advantage or not??????

 

GT2 all day long. Lighter and RWD, much easier to launch with no wheel hop

 

It seems that this post has brought the EVOMS haters out of the woodshed. I hope that some of the same folks are so eager to post when I run the GT2 as a 700

 

I got my badge last week - love it along with that gtr700 kit

 

How's the controlabilty of the car now?

 

Lets have a race!!!!!!!!! Scotts Protomotive vs your GT 700 :-) that how we do it in Texas ........................... I love to see some real aciton!!! I will even fly to watch this one :-) Competition is GOOD

 

The badge made all the difference LOL

 

Renntech,
Thanks for sharing your runs. That heat is extreme and if it corrects to a rough 11.5 or so that aint bad at all. That seems to be about what these cars with those mods will run. You might get a tad lower with a better run because of the weight. Car must be a blast to drive. You have alot of nice cars. How does the acceleration of your GT2 compare from a roll with some of your others? I'm sure the ET does not fully illustrate how quick this car is. Thanks again and keep the shiney side up when you finish your mods.

 

I will say it once again... 99% of the TTs that are on a 5 bar FPR will run 11.5s... give or take .3 seconds either way... there is only so much one can do with existing fuel delivery. what does matter is the other bolt ons ...
Heck, I ran mine 11.5 on stock k24s but I had awesome air flow.
scotts car and the gt700 would be a good comparison... and yet the k24/18g option is the least expensive one... half of what other 600 rwhp turbos cost.
So for the money I think they r great.
competition is good but lets not get it out of hand. we went down this road once b4 and we all got POed...
The conditions had to be poor becasue I ran 123 mph on stock k24s here in chicago. And those on the GT2 are k24 hybrids that scott has as well.
markski

 

Guys, there doesn't have to be any arguing here. The bottom line is we want our cars to all run with perfect efficiency and have big fat power curves... regardless of what "stage" we have. Quite frankly, I don't think anyone has a 100% corner on that yet. Hence, we have to be open minded and learn what we can from each other to achieve that goal. Craig has done an outstanding job in pushing the EVO envelope to the limit. He has been great sharing all he knows with us and we will all be better of with that knowledge. Jean, likewise, has been great in sharing his experience with the Protomotive method, not to mention AX22 data processing. The objective (IMO) is to improve our cars as much as possible. Nothing wrong with getting there for the least $$ either. Tolerance and a desire to improve are paramount in us all attaining our common goal.