jags...we dont compete with price. There are a ton of manufacturers out there that offer product for the low-medium end.

There's simply too much competition. What 9ff does is distinguish itself as by offering overbuilt, over-engineered solutions without compromise. If this means designing and p[roducing a part in low-volume to prevent engines from blowing up, transmissions from seizing or extracting every single last HP from an NA engine - so be it. As such, its an exclusive product - just like a BRAND new Porsche is. We all know what the second hand market is like. The difference is that a factory-new Porsche has 45% of pure profit in it, but is still composed of a bunch of compromised parts designed for the masses.

So if you have to ask...its probably not for you. Once again, there are several manufacturers/vendors that "offer" 1100HP upgrades with only a filter and $500 ECU flash.

The Last time I checked, a brand new, bone stock 3.6TT 420HP porsche motor cost ~$33k. How much would a brand new fully engineered and tested motor which featured technology that eclipses the stock car in every imaginable way - yet was JUST as smooth and drivable (not a peaky, unstreetable hand grenade) and produced 2.5X the output with a 2yr/24k mile warranty cost? Yes, roughly 2.5X the cost.

Pay to play bro...pay to play.

 

Craig, a good thought - but unfortunately the negative side is that the intercooler area is cooled via air that enters from the inlet while the 9ff filter is ALWAYS at ambient temp. The longer you drive, the hotter the car gets, the more worked the intercoolers get...the hotter the air that the intake sees.

The real question is whether the filter being there negatively impacts the intercoolers efficiency?

Suppose that the intake route is a lower resistance circuit to exiting the intercooler exit ducting...what happens then? When you are on full throttle - the intake will create enough negative pressure that the intercoolers will become starved of adequate (cool) air - EXACTLY when you want them to operate at their fullest!!

Classic case of diversionary shunt. Rob peter, pay paul.

I'm no engineer, but i respect what they do - examing every possible variable and its effect on a given system. Thats the difference between mechanics and engineers. Engineers think first then build...mechanics build first then start "tweaking".

 

Not trying to threadjack, but here is a 996TT with a HKS SSQ BOV fitted to it, not a fan at all!

http://www.sp-power.com/PG%20VIDEOS.htm#GTR%20FIREBALL

 

God I love that sound!! thanks for the vids...

 

Well said.

 

So why did the engineers decide to put the BOV's AFTER the intercoolers? It makes no sense to cool the air and then blow it off. This makes the intercoolers woek much harder than they need to in relation to a set-up where the BOVs are placed BEFORE the intercoolers.

I would be interested in what the engineers had to say about this. I'm sure they would have a reason.

 

I will ask them and get back to you. I would imagine that the *easy* answer will be ease of execution. Placing them before the intercoolers would necessitate some long runs of connecting tubing...which may even necessitate an engine drop, or the use of fiber optic technology to snake them to the proper locations.

That said, you are right - there is always a reason!

 

The ideal location for the BOV is as close to the throttle body as possible to prevent compressor surge.

 

So your assuming that because I ask the price of your product, your product is not for me. Therefore, every individual that inquires into the price of your products is given this same response? With that attitude I don't see how anyone will purschase anything from you.

I guess next time one should just blindly give you a credit card number and purchase your product without even know what the price is and if the individual ask's how much, you can respond by saying "So if you have to ask...its probably not for you"

And please show me a single vendor that will sell a 1100hp kit consisting of a filter and a $500 ECU Flash

BTW - I do pay to play BRO!

 

Not a good spot for the filters at all for a street car You get some sweet hot and dirty air that way- yes lot's of it but still. Really nowhere near enough protection and too much of a risk for a street car. Some drag-only cars do that sort of thing but not a road car. I bet it sounds good tho.

 

There you go throwing Chad's favorite book at us again

 

 

Hey, if it works for The Chad, who am I to argue. Plus, it makes me feel way smarter than I actually am!

 

keep on reaching for the stars

 

WHAT! you never heard of the electric supercharger! Hell when i used to "mod" my H22A4 prelude we all knew that the big sticker across the top of the windshield combined with a few behind the front wheel was good for an easy 100HP. Add that to the "vortech" and you could easily get close to 300HP...










Okay....maybe not 1100. But still....