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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 02:11 AM
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Scott,

I was wondering what is the 100 - 200 kph time on the ed's 4.43 60-130 mph run?

Thanks in advance!
 
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scott,

i was wondering what is the 100 - 200 kph time on the ed's 4.43 60-130 mph run?

Thanks in advance!
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Keithta ran a 10.14 in his stock Panamera TT on a 1.6% decline. Nice job, Keith. Thanks for the data!
 
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DAAMNNN!!!

Need to post that in 100-200 thread
 
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OP I sent you some emails to update this site and a forum that I have a 60-130 thread on. Just letting you know it was me.
 
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Madsex343 ran an extremely fast 6.67 in his 997TT with only an APR tune and Europipe exhaust. Very impressive!
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Madsex343 ran an extremely fast 6.67 in his 997TT with only an APR tune, Europipe exhaust. Very impressive!
DAMN! those 997s are ANIMALS.
 
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Madsex343 ran an extremely fast 6.67 in his 997TT with only an APR tune and Europipe exhaust. Very impressive!
very impressive 3.5 seconds less than stock?!
 
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Madsex343 ran an extremely fast 6.67 in his 997TT with only an APR tune and Europipe exhaust. Very impressive!
I dont believe that these belong to a stock VTG car.

At least, I dont want to believe.

Stock form 9,5 seconds 60-130 mph
FVD/exhaust form 8,4 seconds 60-130 mph

now to go down from 8,4 to 6,6s 997 TT needs much more power, and stock turbos cannot supply that airflow. 100 whp wont be enough to lower from 8,4 down to 6,6s.

How much more torque and power will APR put compared to a FVD? 200 whp and 200 lb /ft? No.

Stock turbos max out at 560 flywheel hp.

Madsex has a 6,6 s but should be made with modified VTGs.

These times cannot belong to stock turbochargers.
 

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Are you sure the Vbox wasnt in another car?
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Madsex343 ran an extremely fast 6.67 in his 997TT with only an APR tune and Europipe exhaust. Very impressive!
Many thanks for this Scott once again...
As I told you in the e-mail this was done with 2 shifts (3rd to 4th gear and 4th to 5th for 1sec) due to the fact that I have the stock limiter and can not reach more than 125mph in 4th gear unnfortunately...

It was done with premium unleaded pump gas from the gas station around the corner of my house and with an ambient temp of 8-10C but with great humidity and very strong head and sidewinds...

I believe I can do a but better here as well as for 100-200...

Pls stay tuned..
 
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboM3
I dont believe that these belong to a stock VTG car.

At least, I dont want to believe.

Stock form 9,5 seconds 60-130 mph
FVD/exhaust form 8,4 seconds 60-130 mph

now to go down from 8,4 to 6,6s 997 TT needs much more power, and stock turbos cannot supply that airflow. 100 whp wont be enough to lower from 8,4 down to 6,6s.

How much more torque and power will APR put compared to a FVD? 200 whp and 200 lb /ft? No.

Stock turbos max out at 560 flywheel hp.

Madsex has a 6,6 s but should be made with modified VTGs.

These times cannot belong to stock turbochargers.
That is a nice analysis you made my friend, but has been discussed many many times before (pls do a seacrh) ...
Since we are neighbours and you also know very well Skandalis as well you are welcome to come and see for yourself (even bring your car to put them side by side and compare them) that the car has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE than the APR tune and a standard EP2 exhaust with cats... A sorry it does have a BMC drop in as well and a Sachs stage 2 clutch now...
That is it... Pump gas (not even the most expensive one we can get from Shell called Racing) from EKO (Greek refinery) and dedicated vbox runs is all it will take... Stock non-ceramic brakes, stock wheels with Pirelli PZero and 10000 miles on the car at the moment...

To say that I have modified VTG's or that this a run done in another car and that I am trying to deceive anyobe here is frustrating to say the least after 3 years of being an active forum member and knowing personally many of the gurus and experts in the Porsche scene globally...

It is easy to make accusations, but you should have proof to back them up though to make them stick....
 
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboM3
I dont believe that these belong to a stock VTG car.

At least, I dont want to believe.

Stock form 9,5 seconds 60-130 mph
FVD/exhaust form 8,4 seconds 60-130 mph

now to go down from 8,4 to 6,6s 997 TT needs much more power, and stock turbos cannot supply that airflow. 100 whp wont be enough to lower from 8,4 down to 6,6s.

How much more torque and power will APR put compared to a FVD? 200 whp and 200 lb /ft? No.

Stock turbos max out at 560 flywheel hp.

Madsex has a 6,6 s but should be made with modified VTGs.

These times cannot belong to stock turbochargers.
MadSex has been on 6speed longer than you have, and has a great reputation. Skandalis has been a long time member. They have posted very similar runs from their cars, with essentially the same tunes. The trap speed that USP posted with just the USP tune alone with a manual transmission is 127 mph. Their dyno showed 570 whp and 603 lbft with the tune alone.

When you post something that contradicts what two long standing members have stated (especially a subject that has been argued and discussed on at least 3 separate threads), you are essentially saying that both Skandalis and MadSex are not telling the truth. Do you have proof besides your analysis?

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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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APR cars times are very unbelievable, but I wouldn't say its impossible. Stock turbos do not max out at 570 flywheel hp. My car 997tt(Tune and exhaust) just dynoed yesterday 545rwhp on 93 octane. I know on race gas it will even do more. I have also ran a 7.4 60-130 on 93 octane and in the heat, I haven't sent in the times to Scott because I know the car has alot more in her but with the weather out side I haven't had a shot to try for a good run. After Christmas you will see me post up a 6 second time I can almost promise you that and I am not using APR tune, I am using EPL Tune.
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboM3
I dont believe that these belong to a stock VTG car.

At least, I dont want to believe.

Stock form 9,5 seconds 60-130 mph
FVD/exhaust form 8,4 seconds 60-130 mph

now to go down from 8,4 to 6,6s 997 TT needs much more power, and stock turbos cannot supply that airflow. 100 whp wont be enough to lower from 8,4 down to 6,6s.

How much more torque and power will APR put compared to a FVD? 200 whp and 200 lb /ft? No.

Stock turbos max out at 560 flywheel hp.

Madsex has a 6,6 s but should be made with modified VTGs.

These times cannot belong to stock turbochargers.
 
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APR cars times are very unbelievable, but I wouldn't say its impossible. Stock turbos do not max out at 570 flywheel hp. My car 997tt(Tune and exhaust) just dynoed yesterday 545rwhp on 93 octane. I know on race gas it will even do more. I have also ran a 7.4 60-130 on 93 octane and in the heat, I haven't sent in the times to Scott because I know the car has alot more in her but with the weather out side I haven't had a shot to try for a good run. After Christmas you will see me post up a 6 second time I can almost promise you that and I am not using APR tune, I am using EPL Tune.
Matt
stock 997tt is 390-400whp,yours is 545whp so plus 150whp(plus 40%).GT2RS is 530whp!!!What dyno are you using ?
 


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