GT2 GT700 Road Atlanta Video
Originally Posted by cgmeredithjr
First of all, it's a STREET car that is driven daily when the weather allows and I was running Pirelli P-Zero Slicks. Second, this was "play time" at a DE, not a race, and as I mentioned earlier, we are all amateurs. Third, I'd like to see that 997s run 1:34s on DOT tires.
Oh, just wondering, can you tag, pass emissions, and insure a Cup car for the street?
Oh, just wondering, can you tag, pass emissions, and insure a Cup car for the street?
Originally Posted by rsrracer
If any of you want to make the trip I would personally like to line up instruction or hot laps.
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Originally Posted by cgmeredithjr
This is my first attempt at digital videography...will add more. This was a Driver Education Event, so I had to be polite and wait for a point by when passing and we were only allowed to pass on the straights. Ran a couple of 1:35's...not bad for a street car.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...2d00c5336f.htm
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...2d00c5336f.htm
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This is not a knock on Cleve at all but to those comparing a Cup Car to the Gt2 and the versatility of a street car. A Porsche enthusiast can own a GT3 Cup Car; a 996 C4s and tow/trailer setup for the amount of money to build a Gt2 comparable to Cleve's. You cannot compare apples to oranges when making comparison's to a 650 to the rear wheels street car and a 400 hp track car. Just my .02 worth.
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Originally Posted by DHinkle
Cleve:
I am friends and race w/Ed Obloe (driver of the silver 996 that waved you by). Ed has told me about you and your car. His 996 is not a Carrera Cup but a C stock 996 (3.6 liter engine) w/Carrera Cup wing. Ed peeled a 1:40:7 which is very quick for C stock. I race a 993 RS and have the track record in a race at 1:39:7.
You acknowledge the tires and your amauter driving status. Smart to acknowledge were you are on your learning curve as Gt2's are expensive to rebuild. Driving lessons with a pro coach is a great idea. That is how I've gotten faster since starting.
Steve Johnson is an acquantance of mine and races a 997 GT3 Cup in ALMS and Rolex this year (he's ranked 6th in points). Steve started out racing a GT2 in PCA; moved to a 996 Cup Car and then moved into ALMS/Rolex. He was quicker in his GT2. Check track records at Putnam Park.
A pro driver should get at least a high 1:20's in your GT2 @ Road Atlanta. That gives you a target to shoot for. Seat time and coaching will get you closer than you imagine. Ask Ed as he's picked up 4 seconds this year @ Road Atlanta.
Thanks for sharing the video and keep wheelin it!
I am friends and race w/Ed Obloe (driver of the silver 996 that waved you by). Ed has told me about you and your car. His 996 is not a Carrera Cup but a C stock 996 (3.6 liter engine) w/Carrera Cup wing. Ed peeled a 1:40:7 which is very quick for C stock. I race a 993 RS and have the track record in a race at 1:39:7.
You acknowledge the tires and your amauter driving status. Smart to acknowledge were you are on your learning curve as Gt2's are expensive to rebuild. Driving lessons with a pro coach is a great idea. That is how I've gotten faster since starting.
Steve Johnson is an acquantance of mine and races a 997 GT3 Cup in ALMS and Rolex this year (he's ranked 6th in points). Steve started out racing a GT2 in PCA; moved to a 996 Cup Car and then moved into ALMS/Rolex. He was quicker in his GT2. Check track records at Putnam Park.
A pro driver should get at least a high 1:20's in your GT2 @ Road Atlanta. That gives you a target to shoot for. Seat time and coaching will get you closer than you imagine. Ask Ed as he's picked up 4 seconds this year @ Road Atlanta.
Thanks for sharing the video and keep wheelin it!
Boy would I love to have a Cup car...the only problem is that I can't have both (GT2 & Cup car) and I would not be able to go weeks at a time without driving it. I need my adrenaline hit almost daily, and the GT2 is my drug of choice.
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Dhinkle, I think all we are saying is, it's neat that you can take a GT2, put a 700 kit, transform the suspension with motons and have a daily D, that you can run 10s in, run some good lap times (and yes hang with some track-orientated cars) and listen to the radio whilst having the AC on... It's sorta like having your cake an eating it. If Cleve wants a dedicated track-only race car then I'm sure he'd go that direction but then again having a jack of all trades car is fun.
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Originally Posted by sharkster
Dhinkle, I think all we are saying is, it's neat that you can take a GT2, put a 700 kit, transform the suspension with motons and have a daily D, that you can run 10s in, run some good lap times (and yes hang with some track-orientated cars) and listen to the radio whilst having the AC on... It's sorta like having your cake an eating it. If Cleve wants a dedicated track-only race car then I'm sure he'd go that direction but then again having a jack of all trades car is fun.
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Cleve:
Nic is an exceptional driver. He has instructed me at a Panoz race at VIR. I think he is the most knowledgeable racer that I've met and can drive the wheels of a car. A hot lap with him would be incredible and humling for all of us!
Nic would be faster in your car than a 996 GT3 Cup. Check Leh Keen's track record driving a prepared turbo at Road Atlanta.
To the comments on the element of Cleve's car being fast on thet track and also a street car, I agree it's awesome. The only point I was making is that you cannot compare a Cup Car to a Gt2 related to the points that were brought forth.
I am the guy that's talking to the guy in the paddock racing a 924 as much as a 996 RSR. We're all lucky to have a chance to get on the track (DE or race) and enjoy our favorite German cars!
Nic is an exceptional driver. He has instructed me at a Panoz race at VIR. I think he is the most knowledgeable racer that I've met and can drive the wheels of a car. A hot lap with him would be incredible and humling for all of us!
Nic would be faster in your car than a 996 GT3 Cup. Check Leh Keen's track record driving a prepared turbo at Road Atlanta.
To the comments on the element of Cleve's car being fast on thet track and also a street car, I agree it's awesome. The only point I was making is that you cannot compare a Cup Car to a Gt2 related to the points that were brought forth.
I am the guy that's talking to the guy in the paddock racing a 924 as much as a 996 RSR. We're all lucky to have a chance to get on the track (DE or race) and enjoy our favorite German cars!
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Originally Posted by sharkster
With the attitude you have and the "I'm in the know and you guys are stupid" approach, you're not exactly going to endear youself or be top of anyones lists when it comes to instructors. Using your analogy, there are loads of instructors, some good, some bad and some arrogant. Cleve can obviously drive and I'd like to see you do better in a GT700 GT2... Have you ever driven a GT700 GT2?
I have never driven a GT700 GT2. I have driven a 2001TT at Road Atlanta with about 530HP. This was my track car before I bought a Cup Car.
If you would like to see me do better in a GT700, lets pick a test day with Kinetix later this year. I'll let Cleve drive my Cup Car and I will drive his GT2. We can make arrangements beforehand regarding damage due to overrevs or accidents.
If Cleve does not have data acquisition, I would suggest a simple AIM system which I think installed is $3K or so. This would provide good data to him in the long run even for DE use.
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Originally Posted by rsrracer
There are not many stupid people on this board. I did not state or insinuate that anyone was stupid. What I am suggesting is that more Porsche related adrenalin and enjoyment is on the table. Cleve mentioned that he cannot have a Cup Car and a GT2 and I appreciate that since I was in the same boat.
I have never driven a GT700 GT2. I have driven a 2001TT at Road Atlanta with about 530HP. This was my track car before I bought a Cup Car.
If you would like to see me do better in a GT700, lets pick a test day with Kinetix later this year. I'll let Cleve drive my Cup Car and I will drive his GT2. We can make arrangements beforehand regarding damage due to overrevs or accidents.
If Cleve does not have data acquisition, I would suggest a simple AIM system which I think installed is $3K or so. This would provide good data to him in the long run even for DE use.
I have never driven a GT700 GT2. I have driven a 2001TT at Road Atlanta with about 530HP. This was my track car before I bought a Cup Car.
If you would like to see me do better in a GT700, lets pick a test day with Kinetix later this year. I'll let Cleve drive my Cup Car and I will drive his GT2. We can make arrangements beforehand regarding damage due to overrevs or accidents.
If Cleve does not have data acquisition, I would suggest a simple AIM system which I think installed is $3K or so. This would provide good data to him in the long run even for DE use.
I can assure you that a 530hp 996TT and a 750hp GT2 are two COMPLETELY different cars in all aspects. You may want to reserve comments until you've personally driven one of these things. It will leave a big smile on your face!!
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Cleve,
you did a fantastic job of modding your car and keeping it steetable and
amazingly capable at the track (strip, and a wonderful road course).
My goal at my home track (Brainerd Intl Raceway) is the be the fastest! car
DRIVEN TO the track, and I am getting very close! My final event in
September will tell the truth. Then more mods this winter...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marty K.
you did a fantastic job of modding your car and keeping it steetable and
amazingly capable at the track (strip, and a wonderful road course).
My goal at my home track (Brainerd Intl Raceway) is the be the fastest! car
DRIVEN TO the track, and I am getting very close! My final event in
September will tell the truth. Then more mods this winter...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marty K.