Yes, the GT2 is FOUR TIMES as good as the Z06, if not more.

If you owned one, you would know.

 

"Define Street Legal???

Was my Protomotive car, without cats and throwing flames, street legal?"

CA has already defined that for you and you know the answers.

"You seem to forget that the R&D for over 700hp has already been done. 10.74 seconds to the quarter mile without breaking a sweat."

Yours was the sum total of 2 years of PIA envelope stretching and there isn't anything left on the table. When there's nothing left on the table, I deem that breaking a sweat.

I read the article and think you have a fantastic car despite: "Very difficult to modulate the power on the track, and the chassis was a bit unbalanced as the initial turn in was too quick which snapped the rear of the car over...Needless to say I was very impressed with the horsepower but was really unable to use it because it hit so hard."

My experience with tuning would suggest it ain't all peaches and cream, but I very much do wish you luck with your GT2 project. $350k and 2 years from now, let us know what you achieve (and time spent in shop, getting it back and forth, as well as research). In another couple years from there, let us know how the package has held up. Also, 4 years from now let me know whether you'd still chose your $50k GT2 over the $300k CGT.

 

I vote 10 times better!!!!

 

By the way, last time I checked the 996TT/ GT3/ GT2 all have dry sump lubrication with scavenging oil pumps as well. Many of the parts are in common with the GT1 motor, unlike the 996 NA motor.

Do you think that the CGT has more pumps perhaps because it is a 5.7L V-10 engine as opposed to a 3.6L flat-6?

HELLO!!!!

 

How do you know there isn't anything left on the table? The car was only running 1.2 bar of boost. With stronger rods and maybe even a more beefed up clutch, there is plenty more to be had. Look at the CJV project underway.

You also may not know that during those 2 years, the car did not have any major problems. It was also driven a lot after its initial development period in 2001, when it sat in R&D for 9 months. After that, the longest it sat at Protomotive was a month, where things would be refined or something new would be tried and tested. This car was the R&D platform for many things.

The car also clocked 17,000 miles and still running strong. This car has spent less time in the shop than the majority of tuned turbos that I know of.

Also, the total amount of money spent was only a mere fraction of what some people have spent. You can buy that turbo system for $40,000, maybe even a bit less, from Protomotive... It still leaves you plenty of change to do a lot of other things.

By the way, only liberal pansies care about CA emissions law!

Besides, if I do buy a Carrera GT one day, there is no way I would leave it stock, especially if there is more on the table!!!

 

And ditto goes for the GT3!

Alright, I can't take this anymore, I have to take the car for a spin now!

 

"By the way, only liberal pansies care about CA emissions law!"

I have an SC'd 996 that can't yet be registered in CA because of the emissions laws. I'd really appreciate any help you can PM me for getting around that.

 

I am doing some research on this... I am helping my friend get registration on his seriously tuned 993 Turbo.

Email me at tyson@ciphora.com to remind me not to forget about you.

 

thanks tyson.

 

I would love to have a CGT. The only reason I have not purchased one is I agree with Tyson. I fully expect to buy a very low milage one within two years at somewhere around 275K.

As for the 996tt platform. Currently Killer Angel would out handle the CGT on most courses. It would walk away from one in acceleration. Note, I am talking about the CGT in it's stock state. There is no current information available about how or what can be modified. My guess is you won't find many of them modified. They are like the Enzo, crash it and be prepared to total it.

 

I think if rumors are true and they make a clubsport CGT S that will be something

 

"I fully expect to buy a very low milage one within two years at somewhere around 275K." - but that would be an awesome 2 years

somehow I don't see the CGT falling that much though.

 

I would think that the CGT will go up in value so you better you better start saving for that $350-500 range.

 

:drool:

CGT owns!

 

Go UP in value? I think with 1500 cars you are dreaming...

An Enzo is rare, a CGT is not.

And frankly, it's nowhere near as desirable as an Enzo.