I had a chance to ride in an Ultima in the Bay Area this week...1800lbs, 650+HP and TQ....positively scary in terms of G's under full acceleration and how quick it is to 100. I consider myself a "car guy" like all of us do, but I couldnt control the built-in self preservation move of grabing onto the roll cage and nearly screaming. No exageration. I have never been in a quicker car. It made my TT seem like a fat luxo cruiser in comparison. W/o traction nannies, this car broke loose any gear, any time. I thought I wanted a new Noble M400 (crushes the new 997 TT and most any car), but it's just too much to handle, esp for street. Now....another 100hp in the 996 TT might not hurt or a civilized GT2.

Jack - thanks for the ride....positively unforgetable.

 

Oh come on, cars that will spin the tires at 160 are fun

 

Noble M400, too much to handle even over Ultima?? Wow news to me! Go GT2

 

I have a highly modified M400 and a ~600hp 996TT. The Noble is definitely more of a driver's car, straight line and track, as the Ultima would be. The 996TT does have its advantages as well.

Ultimately though, we're talking horses for courses. You really need to choose a vehicle that will work best for your use, regardless of ultimate performance.

 

Interesting, i just thought the Ultima would be 100x more of a handfull than the M400! How's the reliability on the Noble?

 

Apples to apples, the Ultima is definitely faster than the Noble on the straight line, no question about it. Because drivetrain the Ultima is Chevy LSx based (with Porsche tranny), the Ultima has incredible potential too. It also tends to be slightly lighter at 2250 lbs vs 2337 lbs, and has wider stock tires.

The reliability of the Noble depends HIGHLY on who does the drivetrain install. Because of this, they can be near bulletproof, or a total trainwreck.

 

I have own one but sold it before i built it ready, but my friend has is ready...2200lbs and 962hp at the FLW..we are to scared to try it at that boost level but i have driven it alot on the 700hp setup...sick car and there isn´t much faster cars outthere

 

Interesting, thanks for the info man

 

Just remember, these are kit cars. safety is a big issue. you are not comparing apples to apples. anycar can be faster than another but is
it safe? & it's not a Porsche!

 

the ultima gtr is badass..

 

Yes it is!!!!

 

To be honest, thinking of the Noble or Ultima as a kit car is a bit of a common misconception.

They're regular production vehicles in Europe. They come over to the US as full rolling chassis, which means pretty much everything is already done. All that needs to get put in is the engine, transmission, and a couple odds and ends. It's actually quite a difference between that and a box of parts.

Very very few people order the Ultima as a kit, the vast majority get them as rolling chassis. The Noble isn't even available in kit form.

 

And alot buy them complete also

 

They do not follow the same rules & regulations for emisions & safety
requirements for the US market there for sold as a kit car (no drivetrain) to bypass them!