996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Wanted, Z06 Killer! What to do; Evoms or Protomotive?

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scv8
Good stuff. How does the gearing compare between the two?
It's not quite accurate, though.

First off, stock TT's weigh well over 3,500 lbs (regardless of what the brochure might say). Also, for a TT to make 500 to the wheels, it needs around 610 HP to the crank. Drivetrain loss for a AWD TT is around 18.5% (610 x .815 = 501 AWHP).

A stock weight, AWD TT with only 560-580 at the crank (456-472 awhp) is not enough to beat a stock C6 Z06 with a good driver. The typical 600 crank HP TT's run mid to high 11's and trap in the 124-126 range. There are examples of cars out there that don't follow this trend, but they are not the norm.

As joetwint (who owns a C6 Z06 as well as a modded 996TT) already stated, it take 600+ crank HP (at least) for a TT to become a stock "Z06 killer", as the original poster wants.
 

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Drag radials is not bonestock.
totally agree.
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
First off, stock TT's weigh well over 3,500 lbs (regardless of what the brochure might say).
Thanks Scott. It seems like the brochures have been inaccurate lately (heard the GT3 is heavier than published as well).
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Drag radials is not bonestock.
Ok correction he went a 11.2 @ 128 in a BONESTOCK C6 Z06 on STOCK tires. He also went a 10.8 @ 129 (Same bonestock car) on drag radials, which is not a mod. That would mean I've got more mods myself since my car didn't come with PS2's.

I love the Z06, but on a sunny day I'm not kidding when I say you'll see 4 or 5 just around the house, but there is only 1 Turbo running around (so I gotta do some mods quickly so they will stop picking on me).
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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The key to beeting a Z in "mexico" is from a dig. At a roll, most TT will have a problem except the highly modded.

I corrected my 1/4 mile time above. Too many drugs too early in the day
 
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when it comes to 1/4 racing... drag radials are a mod in my opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
when it comes to 1/4 racing... drag radials are a mod in my opinion.
ET-Streets\Drags I would consider a mod, but he did it on regular Drag Radials that can be driven on daily.
 
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Originally Posted by Powell
ET-Streets\Drags I would consider a mod, but he did it on regular Drag Radials that can be driven on daily.
I understand but when I can shave off .5 seconds in a 1/4 using any kind of drag tire... no matter if its a MT or a BF goodrich... either way its huge advatage to be on either.... MTs more then BFs in this case.
Its a non performance mod just like putting skinnies on the front and or setting up ur suspension correctly.
U can easily use DRs tires... heat them up.... no issues with launching like in the P car nor worries about the gay PSM ....
just my opinion...
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So do we call r-compounds that come on factory vehicles "mods"? The PSC's that come with GT2's and the new 997 GT3 will shave a significant amoumt of time off of a drag run or a roadcourse.

Sure, they come from the factory that way..but they are definitely an unfair advantage when compared to regular old street tires.
 
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
No one else seems to be able to Drive like Ranger,
he also had the record in the C5.

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There are a few stock Z06's that are in the 11.2 range in the 1/4 mile, just as ranger is. The only thing he does that is different that other guys is hyper analyze his runs and determine to the tip of the needle the perfect shift point.
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
when it comes to 1/4 racing... drag radials are a mod in my opinion.
Is BobbyC a mod....lol....he seems to be the best bang for the buck going these days....just kidding bro
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
So do we call r-compounds that come on factory vehicles "mods"? The PSC's that come with GT2's and the new 997 GT3 will shave a significant amoumt of time off of a drag run or a roadcourse.

Sure, they come from the factory that way..but they are definitely an unfair advantage when compared to regular old street tires.
if they are factory equiptment, then they are stock.

It's just like when people try to say the GT500, TT porsche, supra's are modded because they come with a turbo/supercharger.
 
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Originally Posted by dgussin1
It's just like when people try to say the GT500, TT porsche, supra's are modded because they come with a turbo/supercharger.
People actually say that? LOL....
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
People actually say that? LOL....
yeah. lol You know how many time's the old "let me put a supercharger on brand x vehicle and then we'll see whose faster"

But my car came with an S/C!

"yeah, well superchargers are mods, you're car comes modded from the factory"
 
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Originally Posted by dgussin1
yeah. lol You know how many time's the old "let me put a supercharger on brand x vehicle and then we'll see whose faster"

But my car came with an S/C!

"yeah, well superchargers are mods, you're car comes modded from the factory"
That's about as retarded as saying that the C6 Z06 came "modded" from the factory since it's LS7 engine has 427 ci instead of the 364 ci the LS6 came with.
 


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