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These new Michelins feel funny ??

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Thumbs down These new Michelins feel funny ??

I just changed out my old Continental ContiSportContacts for the

Michelin Pilot (PS2's).

The Michelin's feel like I am riding on baloons compared to the Continentals.

The rears seem to flex and squirm, WTF??

Tonight I am going to try higher air pressure, 40+ lbs all around.

Any thoughts??
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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It takes some time for the mold release compound to wear off the tread of a new tire. On the 997tt rear pressures are 39psi for a light load car. The PS2's have alot more stick than the CSC's.
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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That could help explain some of the slippery/goofy feel.

I will give them another try tonight

thanks Lou

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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40psi on 19's or even 18's is alot. I have run both Pirelli and Michelin PS2 on my 18" volks and 19" iforged. The Michelin were designed to stretch alittle bit to help on turning in for cornering. I run mine usually at around 34/36 or 36/38. Check them once they are hot definitely. Also your alignment could be an issue. Just a thought.
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Try 36/42. Thats what I use to runin my Turbo on PS2's and it felt like it was on rails.
 
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That's normal Marty mind did exactly the same thing when new...once you have cooked them a few times and put some miles on them they will become very predictable and set into corners.

Looks like you are having a blast with your "Protomotive Beast"

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Originally Posted by eclou
It takes some time for the mold release compound to wear off the tread of a new tire. On the 997tt rear pressures are 39psi for a light load car. The PS2's have alot more stick than the CSC's.

Exactly, I had a similar experience with the MPSC's my first time out on them (was on track). I was very dissapointed, the second session, they came to life. This was track driving and it took me a 4 laps hard driving session to get the release compound off, I'd imagine it would take some considerable street driving to get the compound off.
 
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Tires are comprised of many layers of rubber, steel
and fabric. Due to these different components,
your new tires require a “break-in” period to
ensure that they deliver their normal ride quality
and maximum performance.
As tires are cured, a “release
lubricant” is applied
to prevent them from sticking in their mold. Some
of the lubricant stays on the surface of your
tires, reducing traction until it is worn away. Five
hundred miles of easy acceleration, cornering and
braking will allow the mold release lubricant to
wear off, allowing the other tire components to
begin working together.
It is also important to note that your old tires probably
had very little tread depth remaining when you felt
it was time to replace
them. As any autocrosser or
racer who has tread rubber shaved off of his tires
will tell you, “low tread depth tires respond quicker.”
Don’t be surprised if your new tires are a little slower
to respond (even if you use the exact same tire as
before). Their new, full depth brings with it a little
more tread squirm until they wear down.
NOTE: Be careful whenever you explore the
capabilities of your new tires. Remember that
every tire requires a break-in period for optimum
performance.

Above is from Tirerack, I also run 34/36 on the street.
Breaking In Your Tires
 
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I think OEM recommended pressure is 36/42, when cold. Anyone know why Porsche would recommend presures that high in the rear? Does anyone out there actually drive with tires at that level for rear tires? Thanks for any guidance/understanding here.
 
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New tires have got to be worn in, they feel like jello and it sucks, but once they do they become amazing!!!! Get out there driving
 
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I have always felt the Continental ContiSportContacts had a stiff sidewall. I'll probably go back to them after I run down these Vredstiens.
 
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I'm not a big fan of the PS2s...soft sidewall...just didn't do it for me. Switched to MPSCs...much better. Now I am a Yoko convert!!!
 
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Thanks guys, the grip is getting better and the sidewalls are soft
compared to Conti's (which can be good or bad).

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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Thanks guys, the grip is getting better and the sidewalls are soft
compared to Conti's (which can be good or bad).

MK
Heard you went out and had some fun w/ Sloss I was on my way, but ended up @ the GF's house You going to be out next week?
 
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Mr. Zinc,

Yes, Bryant and I made quite a splash with the local
V-8 powered guys (and a few Suby's, Neons, Motorcycles, etc). I will be out in a couple weeks again.

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