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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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please elaborate......for free??

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"I do not question the change in the power curve which IS there. However, the plenum has an immeasurable effect on peak power. Similar power curve changes can be accomplished for free.
 
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hey wardhog.....

so your'e the guy who's been pounding my 300lb hefer!~
 
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
If you had read my previous posts on the plenum effects you would know that I do not question the change in the power curve which IS there. However, the plenum has an immeasurable effect on peak power. Similar power curve changes can be accomplished for free.
If this is true, maybe we can do our own dyno day to go heads...

PM me details...

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RandomName, how did they reset your ECU?

Nice writeup BTW, I too am a proud owner of the plenum, screw the naysayers.

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Awesome post. Just what I expected. I'll be ordering mine for sure!
 
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Unfortunate, you can't make everyone happy here. These people will find anythings to talk down a subject or product. Then there is Gpjli a member on 6speed posted an unfounded rumor about lawsuit and unfriendly cooperation between AWE and RSS and was corrected by Todd at AWE. This person need to get a life!
 
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I am a fellow plenum owner,but i also have to question why was the ecu reset.That raises a red flag for me as well.I see it as a 4 whp peak gain.
 
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
If you had read my previous posts on the plenum effects you would know that I do not question the change in the power curve which IS there. However, the plenum has an immeasurable effect on peak power. Similar power curve changes can be accomplished for free.
I clearly would like to know how to accomplish this for free also.......

I also have a 1999C2 and the IPD Plenum will provide you more power and better throttle response, period end. Maybe more on the 3.4 than the 3.6....I don't care!
My car is night and day different than stock. I am not a "believe every HP number kind of guy" as different Dynos give different numbers all the time and on the same day.

But, I do not understand the negativity towards this product from any of you naysayers.......I understand being a cheap@$$, but enough of the negativity for this proven product....
 
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Guys, it shifts the power curve a bit, but you're not gaining any peak HP. SO in essence, you don't get anything without increasing oxygen into the engine itself via forced induction. this is what 1999 is saying.

I avoid any engine mods aside from noise on a normally aspirated car. why? it doesn't do jack for making your car go faster in a straight line.

there is no free lunch. if you want mad power, just get a car that comes with more power, make your car lighter, add forced induction... a little part isn't going to make your car faster than stock because porsche already maxed it out.

so let's not make it a religious or personal war here. i, for one, would never spend money on the plenum.
 
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Hey theres power to be had out there but at what price point.30 hp for 4k is a tuff sell in my book.
 
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So for you the glass is half empty? I added the RSS Plenum and I am a believer....my proof is I'm faster than the stock 996's that belong to my friends....and they are the first to say so..... and for the gains I experience
I feel the price is well worth it....

Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
If you had read my previous posts on the plenum effects you would know that I do not question the change in the power curve which IS there. However, the plenum has an immeasurable effect on peak power. Similar power curve changes can be accomplished for free.
 
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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I was the supercharger guy there. My SC'd 3.4 996 (82k miles) pulled a 341 without the plenum and then pulled a 354 with it.

When we pulled the throttle body off we found my intake was SOAKED in engine oil, the charge cooler had a little reservoir of oil sitting in it and the throttle body flap was utterly drenched and just dripping out.

These SC kits really do need an oil catcher on the crank can vent line.
Everyone there was shocked to see so much oil.

Both with and without the plenum my dyno runs showed detonation up through the higher RPMS due to lots of oil being present.

So, the consensus was that mine was running like crap because of the oil and should have been pulling 360-370 without the plenum and that I was about 20-30 down. The plenum pulled it back up without a shadow of a doubt.

After we'd run the 354 the chaps put in 5 gallons or race gas to see if this would flatten out the detonation. It did. It pulled a 360 at that point. I believe the guys when they tell me that once the oil is gone I'll be pulling significantly higher numbers.

On my (very long) ride home I could immediately tell there was more torque and power delivery was much smoother. I also noticed that the engine runs significantly cooler, although I cannot explain why.

I've installed a catch can now to stop the crank case oil spatter venting into the inlet.

I'm sure Greg will post dyno numbers at some point once the dust settles, but in my humble opinion the plenum, without a shadow of doubt, increased everyones power at the event.

I don't think anyone had the chaps take the plenums off again after seeing the numbers.

Aside from the plenum, I have to say I had an absolutely fabulous day. It was a real treat to meet such knowledgeable enthusiasts. Greg was so professional and helpful, I have the utmost respect for everyone involved. The chaps at GT Pro did a great job of keeping everyone safe while still letting people see what was actually going on.

I made a round trip of just over 800 miles to see this plenum work, I watched what was going on quiet closely. I didn't spot any shenanigans at all, quiet the contrary, Greg and the rest of the folks went out of their way to provide transparency.

I'm a believer and so is the seat of my pants now having put over 400 miles on the plenum it's running even stronger now, presumably because the ECU is getting used to it (and starting to clean out the oil that was spat into the works !)

I showed up with a buddy of mine from Australia, he's been rallying cars for years and is now looking for a 996 for a daily driver. He has already decided his first mod will be the plenum based entirely on what he saw on Saturday.

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good power comes through a set of 200 cell cats & Headers combined with ECU... you will feel it above 4000 rpm for sure...
 
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For the nay sayers that feel there can be no benifit in modifying a Porsche engine and that Porsche have allready maxed it out as i read in a previous post .
bull....
I have a 3.4 ltr with a exhaust from starr performance with a 70mm intake pipe with a BMC CDA air cleaner,
i have also fitted it with a pair of shrick cams as well as a lightenned fly wheel.
the car makes 196kw at the rear wheels while a stock 996 makes 166kw at rw and a series 2 3.6 makes 174kw at rw
Although i have not yet tried the plenium as im waiting to find the australian agents or become one, it is obvious that a ram tube flows more air than a straight piece of pipe and the same principal will apply here.
 


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