While I don't disagree with you guys on the whole rear should be stiffer than the front to make the car handle like it's "suposed to"....it sounds like his mechanic setup the car with caution for the dude to keep the understeer which is safer on the street.

No offense to the OP but if you're spinning on the street with the car setup the way it is...that's only going to make it easier to spin by going softer in the front and stiffer in the rear on your dampers.

Get it to the track...set the car up how others have stated in this thread and remember to get back to the gas early after your initial turn-in and keep at least seady state throttle until you're out of the turn.

 

One of the previous posters brought up a good point. If you set up the car to understeer too much, many people will end up overcorrecting. And, when the front end does finally hook up, the overcorrection results in a big directional change, which can induce oversteer. That said...

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Get to the track or get to an autoX so the next time it happens, it's not a surprise. I had an accident a long time ago where I went around a corner too fast (in a nonPcar) and oversteered into some Ford Probe. Didn't do much damage, but I haven't spun a car on the street since I started doing AutoX/Track days. I've had the rear end come out accidentally a few times but instead of being scared by it, I caught it and reacted correctly... and was scared later.

 

If your car was understeering and over-correcting it caused the 180, its set too soft in the rear in relation to the front.

If it was oversteering, and you lifted off or did not counter steer quick enough, it is set too hard in rear in relation to the front.

 

And .....you'd still prob spin out as the Active Suspension Management prob would not be able to save you.....

What you need my friend....is PSM. (Porsche Stability Management)

 

Delirium - skip the autocross and do the short track series with this group. You'll learn more about your car than you ever thought possible. The best bang for your buck is to spend money on you, not the car!

http://www.porscheclub.com/

 

you cant lift the throttle.... just counter steer asap once you feel the rear end coming loose...

 

I have come close to what your are describing, what I do is just pedal through it, never let off the gas. Almost like a controlled drift. Its worked every time so far. The best way to prevent this is to just slow down. Oh yeah, I don't have any kind of traction control like PASM or PSM.

 

I've found it easier to lose the back end in my (front engine) 98 M3 than in my 996. Reason being more weight in the back and wider tires on the 996. Either way if you are in a turn and the back starts to slide and then you lift, you'll come around. You really shouldn't be driving like that on the street. Hit the track, it's safer and a lot more fun!

 

I think it should be a requirement to take car control/handling courses before purchasing a 911...

 

I hoped you changed your underwear after that experience!!!!

 

Did you lift off on the gas? A No No.

Help me understand who in their right mind recommends going around a 90 degree right hand turn mashing the throttle/gas Besides being next to impossible to control, it's probably the most dangerous thing you could do in any car. If you countersteer left as you would have to in a hard right hand turn, you would be steering directly into the path of oncoming traffic on most streets. The only saving grace would be if it's a one way street with multiple lanes. This is not good advice.

Slowing down was and is probably the best advice; not maintaining speed or speeding up around the corner. Slowing down will give you the most reaction time to correct ANY issues. The concept of powering through applies to curves not corners If you're going 35-40 mph and attempt to turn right or left without braking first, the momentum will always make the car slide or spin out without fail. Stay safe.

TDK

 

glad you are okay

 

Wow. Can I get a detailed explanation as to how this works? Severe understeer corrected by adding 100% power with ebrake!?

I have been shopping for a 996 for about 6 months. I gotta go ahead and jump in, these cars are f-ing magic!! How the above scenario did not end up in tragedy is pure luck!

 

I'm interested! where is held?

Glad you and your 911 are okay..

 

i didnt like rip the ebrake like a tokyo drift scenario, i was heading into a u bend right turn going down hill, went in car went in fine than started to head straight with the wheel turned to the right, quickly turned the wheel straight, gave the car gas and turned right again but used the ebrake to control, as to not hit the cars main brakes but still give it some braking force, car controlled it's self and around the turn, came out fine and drove home. I was shaking a little haha cause off the ramp is a giant drop into a ditch