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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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how do i know if i have a reman engine? is there a S/N i should be looking for?

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake Ok
I believe that the issue here is about the engines that don't have a warranty.
Not that I am defending Porsche (I will surely be pissed if it had happen to me), but when your car runs out of warranty, there are options for extended and aftermarket warranties. In any case the blown up engine will be replace at no charge. Warranties are offer for precisely that purpose - there is not one brand of cars out there that is 100% break proof.


Porsche's actions are reactive while other manufacturers are proactive, that is the difference. And it seems that replacing the engine w/ a reman is merely a band-aid until the warranty expires when they can wipe their hands clean -- it's not addressing the root cause of the issue. When BMW found what the cause of the problem was, they did not wait until engines blew up; they issued a service action (2 as a matter of fact) to replace the rod bearings and oil pump.

My C4S is a weekend car. It is not practical for me to drive to work. I have a 2 year CPO warranty on it. Those 2 years will go by very fast. These engines crap themselves w/o rhyme or reason. In hindsight, the warranty means jack. I'd much rather have Porsche be proactive and issue service action(s) and fix the root cause of the problem.

I'll play devil's advocate...let say if Porsche does offer an extended engine replacement warranty (particularly on the 3.4L). People who drive them will start hammering away on the track, neglect their oil changes, over revving their cars and drive it like they stole it. Then what happens?? Where is Porsche going to draw the line? Welcome to reality…they are in business to make money.


Porsche, like other manufacturers, have ways to determine whether or not a car was abused. Take the guy w/ the Nissan GT-R that got turned down for a transmission replacement by Nissan, for example.

We can all stop the bleeding by telling ourselves “Porsche, there is a substitute
I guess easier said than done for some of us. Passion & ego over sensibility.
I find it ironic that a company that prides itself on the most wins in automobile racing can't engineer a consistently reliable engine.

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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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As the owner of a 2000 3.4 that I bought in 2000 with 4,000 miles, was well maintained and never tracked, and failed in September with an oil/coolant intermix, I guess I have an axe to grind. But it seems pretty obvious to me that the 3.4 have an excessive number of failures, you read about them constantly, and if you talk to mechanics, wrecking yards, etc, they all acknowledge seeing alot of the failures (usually with a chuckle). I know that at the beginning of this summer PCNA had 138 3.4 engtines in stock and in September they were down to 1, that is alot of engines in 3-4 months.

Also notice that the new 997.2 engine has no IMS, a major source of failures, no seperate cylinder liners and a closed deck technology. So Porsche has designed out the sources of many of the problems with the M96 version of the engine.

If Porsche has no problem why have they been so reluctant to provide information. Under warranty they would not tear down engines, or ever tell anyone why the engines failed, just threw in another engine and ran from the problem. It would be very simple for them to provide the numbers, how many M96 engines were produced, in which version, how many failed, what was the source of failure, etc. etc. If the numbers are small, and there is no real problem why the secrecy? Just disprove all the bad press. BMW let people know what the problems were and provided solutions. Porsche has not, other than providing engines under warranty. And now they have jacked up the price of a reman 3.4 to higher than a 3.6, 3.6 X51, or even a 997 engine.

If they have nothing to hide, they are sure spending alot of time hiding it!!!
 
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Its a silly idea really. your not going to accomplish anything. i appreciate teh effort though. I bought a car with a reman motor. Changed at 8400 miles. Car now has 109,500 and hasnt missed a beat. they fixed teh problem. If your out of warranty your out of warranty. ive seen non-reman lastforever as well. Sucks but is what it is.

And i have to say probably for the first time ever I actually agree with Ben! LOLOL
 
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