996 Previous model naturally aspirated Porsche 911 community. Discuss C2, C2s, C4, C4s, Targa and Cabriolets.

Looking to buy 996 Carrera coupe tip. Need advice!

Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:00 AM
  #16  
Ken's Avatar
Ken
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,638
From: Carlsbad
Rep Power: 131
Ken is a jewel in the roughKen is a jewel in the roughKen is a jewel in the roughKen is a jewel in the rough
Originally Posted by PasPar2
I wouldnt say the shifting on my 02 tip is slow....

I narrowed my search to 02/03 996 b/c I read a lot of horror stories about the MK1 3.4's blowing up. Ironically, my 02 has a new motor after the 1st one threw a bearing and was replaced under extended warranty...

If you are going for a tip 02+ is the way to go. The tip used in 02+ is the turbo tip with a lot more "intelligence" and its a more robust transmission

good luck
I don't know if I would use the word "robust" - I killed mine in under 30,000 miles. Hard miles, but still $10K is a lot to swallow.
 
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:03 AM
  #17  
Ken's Avatar
Ken
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,638
From: Carlsbad
Rep Power: 131
Ken is a jewel in the roughKen is a jewel in the roughKen is a jewel in the roughKen is a jewel in the rough
Originally Posted by TraderJoe
I was going to go for a 6 speed but opted for a newer tip based on year and miles. That said, I don't like the tip controls so just ordered an F1 steering wheel. Hopefully, it cures my desire for the 6 speed...
I have the Gemballa steering wheel that puts the shift button under your thumb
 
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:06 AM
  #18  
waydeki's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 90
From: minnesooota
Rep Power: 23
waydeki is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by PasPar2
I wouldnt say the shifting on my 02 tip is slow....

I narrowed my search to 02/03 996 b/c I read a lot of horror stories about the MK1 3.4's blowing up. Ironically, my 02 has a new motor after the 1st one threw a bearing and was replaced under extended warranty...

If you are going for a tip 02+ is the way to go. The tip used in 02+ is the turbo tip with a lot more "intelligence" and its a more robust transmission

good luck
I recently spoke to Jake Raby about a motor replacement/upgrade for my 6 spd MkI and he believes the 3.4 is much more reliable in the Tip cars. He didn't elaborate on why. But he said he's preparing information on the subject to demonstrate the various failure modes of the 3.4 (and why his rebuilt motors resolve the issues, whatever they are). He added that, the harder you drive the car, the better the engine will hold up.
 
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:10 AM
  #19  
waydeki's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 90
From: minnesooota
Rep Power: 23
waydeki is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by Ken
I have the Gemballa steering wheel that puts the shift button under your thumb
cause to quote a great philosopher:

"That's hot f-ing action to the max, Jack!"
-Dirk Diggler
 
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:24 AM
  #20  
The Dark Knight's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 224
From: Los Angeles
Rep Power: 26
The Dark Knight is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by waydeki
I recently spoke to Jake Raby about a motor replacement/upgrade for my 6 spd MkI and he believes the 3.4 is much more reliable in the Tip cars. He didn't elaborate on why. But he said he's preparing information on the subject to demonstrate the various failure modes of the 3.4 (and why his rebuilt motors resolve the issues, whatever they are). He added that, the harder you drive the car, the better the engine will hold up.
I'm sure one of the things he will show is that the Tip cars don't get the type 2 over-revs commonly caused from missed downshifts in the 6-Speeds; a major issue since excessive type 2 over-revs void Porsche warranties and seem to be the beginning of the end for a lot of the 3.4 issues. Also, they probably don't suffer from the same crank flex/ movement/walk from jerky up and downshifting which attacks the RMS and main bearings over time. I have 85K on my Tip with no RMS issues as of yet; knock on wood. The power curve of the Tip is computer controlled to make for smoother power and I'm sure that is one of the reasons Porsche uses it on the Turbos. Obviously the new PDKs take it to the next level.

TDK
 
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:29 AM
  #21  
waydeki's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 90
From: minnesooota
Rep Power: 23
waydeki is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by The Dark Knight
I'm sure one of the things he will show is that the Tip cars don't get the type 2 over-revs commonly caused from missed downshifts in the 6-Speeds; a major issue since excessive type 2 over-revs void Porsche warranties and seem to be the beginning of the end for a lot of the 3.4 issues.
i think that's what took out the motor in my 6spd. i wasnt driving it at the time (my dad was). but that seems to go hand in hand with the damaged 2nd gear from the other driver as well.
 
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:46 PM
  #22  
The Dark Knight's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 224
From: Los Angeles
Rep Power: 26
The Dark Knight is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by waydeki
Reading these posts, i was compelled to contribute. i get a ton o' sh-t for driving a tip/cab. but i have a few DE's under my belt in both my '99 Tip Cab and my '99 6spd Coupe at BIR and Road America. So far, i prefer the Tip. to be fair, it might be because i'm new to track driving and appreciate the ability to focus on braking and steering without the added drama of shifting. but i would definitely not dismiss the Tip (or a MkI for that matter). learning how to properly time my throttle blips upon downshifting has really enhanced the experience. i see a 996 Turbo Tip in my future. especially at the depressed prices of the 996 tip turbos.
This was a pretty good write up: http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Drivi..._at_track_days

I think a lot of people forget to jab the pedal of their Tips in Auto mode and then accelerate steadily; it makes a huge acceleration difference versus simply pressing on the gas pedal or using the thumb buttons in manual Mode to accelerate. The Tipto ECU picks the best gear to match engine and road speeds using this method fairly welll.

TDK
 
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:21 PM
  #23  
PasPar2's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 947
From: NYC
Rep Power: 61
PasPar2 is a name known to allPasPar2 is a name known to allPasPar2 is a name known to allPasPar2 is a name known to allPasPar2 is a name known to allPasPar2 is a name known to all
Originally Posted by Ken
I don't know if I would use the word "robust" - I killed mine in under 30,000 miles. Hard miles, but still $10K is a lot to swallow.

dont forget to mention that you had 600 horses going on... and you sound led footed to put it mildly!
 
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:30 PM
  #24  
abcwoodworking's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 112
From: long island
Rep Power: 27
abcwoodworking is a glorious beacon of lightabcwoodworking is a glorious beacon of lightabcwoodworking is a glorious beacon of lightabcwoodworking is a glorious beacon of lightabcwoodworking is a glorious beacon of lightabcwoodworking is a glorious beacon of light
i agree it sucks having to shift on the wheel only
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
2lflat4
Automotive Parts & Accessories For Sale/Wanted
2
Nov 18, 2019 05:05 PM
PelicanParts.com
GT3/GT2/GT Vendor Classifieds
0
Aug 20, 2015 02:37 PM
PelicanParts.com
996 Vendor Classifieds
0
Aug 18, 2015 03:45 PM
PelicanParts.com
996 Turbo Vendor Classifieds
0
Aug 18, 2015 03:43 PM
PelicanParts.com
GT3/GT2/GT Vendor Classifieds
0
Aug 18, 2015 03:42 PM


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:16 AM.