Project finally done. Here's a few quick pics of the new body pieces, susp, etc..
Go for the black. It'll look great on your red cab. Black tends to look good on red, yellow, or white. Looks good on other cars too, but I think it stands out more with the contrast on those three colors.
Neil: The rear bumper is "euro-style" = no bumperettes. Which is fine by me. Less protection I suppose, but I like the cleaner look anyway. If I ever get rear ended (knock on wood), even with bumperettes, I'm probably gonna be at the body shop either way so might as well ditch em' 
Don: Thanks. I need to get the lettering on the brake light blind painted like yours. I like the way it looks better with the lettering in black. I just don't have the ***** to go out there with a sharpie
I was thinking about finding a good airbrusher maybe. My bodyshop wasn't really interested.
Anyway, the suspension is Cargraphic springs and stock shocks. I went through a ton of reseach before deciding on going with the springs. I looked into the PSS9 setup, but the Eastern Bilstein rep told me that he didn't recommend coilovers in the cab. He told me chassis rigidity could be a problem. He had a customer actually flex their windshield loose. Some people will probably disagree with this. He's their salesperson, so it concerned me when he was steering me away from their product.
I also looked at the various spring/shock combo options. Bottom line, almost every retailer I spoke with steered me towards doing just springs. I haven't tracked the car yet. I may do a driver's ed type course once a year. I was just looking for a lower look and a slightly firmer ride. Hands down, every single salesperson told me to just get springs. Apparently the stock shocks are outstanding from the factory and can easily cope with slight lowering.
I decided on the cargraphic springs because they seemed to have the best combination of ride height and ride quality. Not to mention I have their wheels and exhaust and was already amazed at the quality and detail. I have been really impressed the springs so far. The ride is a bit firmer, but still smooth. Handling is much better. Seems a little tigher with less roll. There's no bouncing or unusual responsiveness. As far as longevity, Erik at cargraphic has a set on one of their cars with around 30k miles on stock shocks. That was good enough for me. I'm only doing around 5k a year, so they should last a good long time. And when the stockers wear out, I'll just throw a set of Bilstein sports in there.
If money's no object, I say put the most exotic suspension you can find on there. For me though, it would have been just complete overkill and wasted money. I like the ride height now. I can't imagine going any lower, as I'm already scraping everywhere I go as it is. I had coilovers on my last car. They got adjusted once and that's when they were installed. Never touched them again. Just me .02 on this topic.
Piece of advice, don't ask about doing just springs at Rennlist. They'll break out the flamethrowers and you'll be torched instantly
What a strange crowd over there at times.

Don: Thanks. I need to get the lettering on the brake light blind painted like yours. I like the way it looks better with the lettering in black. I just don't have the ***** to go out there with a sharpie
I was thinking about finding a good airbrusher maybe. My bodyshop wasn't really interested. Anyway, the suspension is Cargraphic springs and stock shocks. I went through a ton of reseach before deciding on going with the springs. I looked into the PSS9 setup, but the Eastern Bilstein rep told me that he didn't recommend coilovers in the cab. He told me chassis rigidity could be a problem. He had a customer actually flex their windshield loose. Some people will probably disagree with this. He's their salesperson, so it concerned me when he was steering me away from their product.
I also looked at the various spring/shock combo options. Bottom line, almost every retailer I spoke with steered me towards doing just springs. I haven't tracked the car yet. I may do a driver's ed type course once a year. I was just looking for a lower look and a slightly firmer ride. Hands down, every single salesperson told me to just get springs. Apparently the stock shocks are outstanding from the factory and can easily cope with slight lowering.
I decided on the cargraphic springs because they seemed to have the best combination of ride height and ride quality. Not to mention I have their wheels and exhaust and was already amazed at the quality and detail. I have been really impressed the springs so far. The ride is a bit firmer, but still smooth. Handling is much better. Seems a little tigher with less roll. There's no bouncing or unusual responsiveness. As far as longevity, Erik at cargraphic has a set on one of their cars with around 30k miles on stock shocks. That was good enough for me. I'm only doing around 5k a year, so they should last a good long time. And when the stockers wear out, I'll just throw a set of Bilstein sports in there.
If money's no object, I say put the most exotic suspension you can find on there. For me though, it would have been just complete overkill and wasted money. I like the ride height now. I can't imagine going any lower, as I'm already scraping everywhere I go as it is. I had coilovers on my last car. They got adjusted once and that's when they were installed. Never touched them again. Just me .02 on this topic.
Piece of advice, don't ask about doing just springs at Rennlist. They'll break out the flamethrowers and you'll be torched instantly
What a strange crowd over there at times.
Your awesome Cab
Deputydog
Your car looks amazing
I have been struggling with the idea of lowering my Cab for a while now,
I was leaning towards the PSS9's until I read your post. My question is, what did you spend on the springs and were camber and toe settings changed and if so at what cost??
Anziano's is 5 minutes from where I work, I really like the look of their products but was a little concerened about fiberglass, you feel good about the products it appears, I think I will give them a 2nd look.
Again...Nice Ride Dude!
Your car looks amazing
I have been struggling with the idea of lowering my Cab for a while now,
I was leaning towards the PSS9's until I read your post. My question is, what did you spend on the springs and were camber and toe settings changed and if so at what cost??
Anziano's is 5 minutes from where I work, I really like the look of their products but was a little concerened about fiberglass, you feel good about the products it appears, I think I will give them a 2nd look.
Again...Nice Ride Dude!
Last edited by SC996; Nov 23, 2004 at 11:38 AM.
The springs retail for around $400. Way less than a set of pss9's
If you're not going to the track on a regular basis, I say...why bother?
Yes, I had the full alignment done. It was expensive, around $250 I think. I really don't rememeber. Maybe a little more. I don't know what my settings are. I haven't had time to swing by the shop and pick up the alignment spec sheet yet.
Just rememeber, those aftermarket body pieces take a lot of prep. My guys spent a ton of time on this stuff. Take a close look at them while you're there at his shop. Tell him you saw them on my car. I'm sure he'd appreciate the advertisement. They're kind of rough out of the mold. The fit is pretty good and they do look fine with the right prep. If you have him do the prep and paint, just make sure he actually sands and fills the imperfections as opposed to laying down a couple thick coats of primer. I'm not saying he does that, but some do. If you want longevity out of the paint work, make sure whoever does it right. I think bob anziano said he charges around $600 to prep, paint, and install either the bumper or wing.
If you're not going to the track on a regular basis, I say...why bother?Yes, I had the full alignment done. It was expensive, around $250 I think. I really don't rememeber. Maybe a little more. I don't know what my settings are. I haven't had time to swing by the shop and pick up the alignment spec sheet yet.
Just rememeber, those aftermarket body pieces take a lot of prep. My guys spent a ton of time on this stuff. Take a close look at them while you're there at his shop. Tell him you saw them on my car. I'm sure he'd appreciate the advertisement. They're kind of rough out of the mold. The fit is pretty good and they do look fine with the right prep. If you have him do the prep and paint, just make sure he actually sands and fills the imperfections as opposed to laying down a couple thick coats of primer. I'm not saying he does that, but some do. If you want longevity out of the paint work, make sure whoever does it right. I think bob anziano said he charges around $600 to prep, paint, and install either the bumper or wing.
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