c4 clutch ?
The clutch in my c4 is toast.
Anyone recommend upgrading the clutch & flywheel?
The car has 23,000 miles on it & it seems to slip quite a bit. Is this typical with the c4's?
Anyone recommend upgrading the clutch & flywheel?
The car has 23,000 miles on it & it seems to slip quite a bit. Is this typical with the c4's?
Two points to this one...
1) 23k off a clutch is not much. How long have you owned it, and what do you know of the previous owner? Generally, you might expect about 40k, but that's a ballpark. If you do a lot of city driving, where you're constantly on the clutch, you get less, particularly if it's hilly. If you don't downshift properly, you get less. If you're into drag racing, you'll get waaaay less (and you bought the wrong car)
2) Is this your homepage? www.realultimatepower.net
1) 23k off a clutch is not much. How long have you owned it, and what do you know of the previous owner? Generally, you might expect about 40k, but that's a ballpark. If you do a lot of city driving, where you're constantly on the clutch, you get less, particularly if it's hilly. If you don't downshift properly, you get less. If you're into drag racing, you'll get waaaay less (and you bought the wrong car)
2) Is this your homepage? www.realultimatepower.net
What makes you think your clutch is slipping? That is extremely low miles for a clutch to burn out. Try putting your car in 6th gear with the emergency brake on tight. Rev the engine us to 1500 rpm and slowly let the clutch out. If the engine stalls immediately....your clutch is fine.
If in fact the clutch is blown, I suggest you take note of how you are using the clutch and take corrective action. You should get 100,000 miles or more out of the clutch even when driving hard. However, if you are pulling holeshots everyday, then that could be your problem.
If in fact the clutch is blown, I suggest you take note of how you are using the clutch and take corrective action. You should get 100,000 miles or more out of the clutch even when driving hard. However, if you are pulling holeshots everyday, then that could be your problem.
Not the first 996/boxster owner who needed an early clutch. As I understand it 60k on one of these clutches is amazing. I had about 40k on my old boxster clutch before I got rid of it and the dealer was amazed I had so much clutch left.
I have heard 25k is about min and about 50k max from people on the PPBB(The boxster board).
I don't think he's doing anything wrong, but at the same time he's not doing everything perfectly right for max clutch life.
I have heard 25k is about min and about 50k max from people on the PPBB(The boxster board).
I don't think he's doing anything wrong, but at the same time he's not doing everything perfectly right for max clutch life.
That's f'd up, he should get way more miles out of that clutch. The previous owner didn't know how to drive it, or somebody attempted drag race style starts, car/clutch ain't made for that.
It may be messed up but not unheard of....
FYI: Porsche stock clutches for the 986/996/997 are thinner than previous models and so do not have as much wear material. Also they are designed to fail if you badly miss a downshift.
FYI: Porsche stock clutches for the 986/996/997 are thinner than previous models and so do not have as much wear material. Also they are designed to fail if you badly miss a downshift.
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<<FYI: Porsche stock clutches for the 986/996/997 are thinner than previous models and so do not have as much wear material. Also they are designed to fail if you badly miss a downshift>>
What drugs are you on? Where in the hell did you hear that? The clutch IS NOT made fail on a miss shift. I hope there is no one on this board that will believe that.
The material used on the clutch plates has been changed to a more durable one and therefore Porsche has been able to design the plate thinner.
What drugs are you on? Where in the hell did you hear that? The clutch IS NOT made fail on a miss shift. I hope there is no one on this board that will believe that.
The material used on the clutch plates has been changed to a more durable one and therefore Porsche has been able to design the plate thinner.
about the missed shift thing, I read it a few years back when I got my boxster from some marketing stuff porsche provided about the engineering that went into it. It was designed to fail before you crushed the valves. Not a simple missed downshift, but a really bad one protecting the engine.
In all seriousness...
Talk to some porsche service managers, I have in the past before I bought my 996 and my boxster. On more than one occasion and from more than one dealer their statements about the boxster/996 clutch is that they are "weak" compared to earlier models and that they ARE engineered for a shorter life but a lighter feel than the 993. Also they knew about the "engineered" failure point that porsche put in to protect the engine, infact they told me most manufactures are doing that now with manual transmissions including ferrari.
Don't delude yourself into thinking they put less material on the clutch because it's better stuff. Many people who are putting aftermarket clutch's in are noticing the aftermarket ones have much more meat on them and last much longer. Troll some of the boxster boards and you'll find this out, and some of these people are having some ver low mileage clutch replacements even though their last 911's had 100-150k on the orig clutch with only a few track days on their clutches.
Cheers,
Corey
Talk to some porsche service managers, I have in the past before I bought my 996 and my boxster. On more than one occasion and from more than one dealer their statements about the boxster/996 clutch is that they are "weak" compared to earlier models and that they ARE engineered for a shorter life but a lighter feel than the 993. Also they knew about the "engineered" failure point that porsche put in to protect the engine, infact they told me most manufactures are doing that now with manual transmissions including ferrari.
Don't delude yourself into thinking they put less material on the clutch because it's better stuff. Many people who are putting aftermarket clutch's in are noticing the aftermarket ones have much more meat on them and last much longer. Troll some of the boxster boards and you'll find this out, and some of these people are having some ver low mileage clutch replacements even though their last 911's had 100-150k on the orig clutch with only a few track days on their clutches.
Cheers,
Corey
<<<<<<Talk to some porsche service managers, I have in the past before I bought my 996 and my boxster. On more than one occasion and from more than one dealer their statements about the boxster/996 clutch is that they are "weak" compared to earlier models and that they ARE engineered for a shorter life but a lighter feel than the 993. Also they knew about the "engineered" failure point that porsche put in to protect the engine, infact they told me most manufactures are doing that now with manual transmissions including ferrari.>>>>>
Better stay away from thos Porsche Dealers!
Better stay away from thos Porsche Dealers!
Get the stage II clutch and light flywheel. I plan to get Todd at Evo to put one on for me this winter on my C4S. Heavier duty and faster response with 15# weight savings at the flywheel. They are a little noiser at idle. Will
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