Or he can just wipe the floor clean, drive car, park and check the next day to see if it drips again.

Did someone say TT's don't have RMS leaks? I had mine replaced anyway.

 

They shouldn't suffer with the same affliction as the M96...but for you Collin, anything is possible!

 

I did the 993 block never had a RMS issue, it is only a 996 issue therfore effecting 996, C4S only. On the 997 which continues use of the 996 block the jury is still out not enough of them out. Maybe you were a real 1 in 1000 case as I have never heard of RMS on a TT.

 

The RMS can fail on any engine. The M96 engine found in the NA 996 and 986 seem to be more susceptible than others. Its an engineering issue in the block itself. There have been some reports of the 997 Carrera (S) engines having the same problems.

 

I hear you but the common occurence was 996 forward which is 997 also (same block) even the "S" is just bored out.

 

Robyn,

Thanks for the detailed reply. The oil leaks appear centered and directly beneath the transmission. It seems very likely that it is an RMS leak.

I will surely ask for the concentricty measurements as I do not want to face this problem again. I am planning extensive mods in the spring and I may very well jeapordize my warranty. I need to ensure this is behind me.

The clutch idea is good. I have put some stress on the clutch in the first 7500 miles. I am planning to replace it in the spring along with the flywheel but it may a good idea to do it now. I will definitley ask for a free oil change. They quoted $375 for an oil change. Don't they need to drain the oil when they replace the seal?

Thanks again to all for the advice. The service appointment is set for the 19th. We shall see.

 

When I went in for my first RMS on my current Pcar, it was measured at .27, I opted to keep the engine and hope it was the last. It didn't, so the new engine happened. Which was a terrific thing, she felt stronger than the last. If you end up with this being offered to you, try not to think it's the end of the world as some alarmist do but rather, use it to your advantage. I know the whole "it's damaged goods thing" is real, but it's not like we have to worry about matching numbers and stuff. But, having an RMS leak doesn't always warrant a new engine either. Sometimes, it's fixed and it never reappears again. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Asking your dealer keeps them on their toes; being an educated consumer is the best thing we can do for our ownership experience. I have a great dealer who has always been very forthcoming and honest in communicating with me and helping to educate me in all this. Plus, I ask a elventybillion questions.

They apparently do not need to drain the oil in the case of the RMS (but I think most do...and it's been eight months since my last RMS leak, so things might have changed. )...but they do in the case of replacing the Intermediate Shaft Seal. So it's always good to ask and get an oil change out of them, it's the least they can do...as well as paying your labor on the clutch work (This is a great $$ savings). I've even heard that some dealers when they drain the oil, put the old stuff back in, not sure if there is a lot of truth to that - would seem a difficult task since in drains into a tub.

Alright...I'll stop now....

 

RMS leak is Robyn's favorite topic because that's all she knows

Please don't talk about oil leaks ever again. Just search Robyn's old posts.

 

Well, hmmmm....we can also talk about shoes. I like that subject too!

 

Ahh. My favorite fetish! Feel free to start a new thread in OT

 

How To Get Even!

Here are several ways to reall get even with someone:

GARAGE SALE: Place an ad in the classified section of your local newspaper advertising a GIGANTIC Garage Sale listing the address of your victim. Advertise televisions, camcorder, vintage automobile, antiques, etc. Sale begins at 6:00 a.m. all items in the backyard, Just come around back and Come early!



OIL SPOT: At night pour used oil underneath the victims car while parked in the driveway. Pour enough that will be alarming. Continue to do this each night. The subject will spend great deals of money trying to get the oil leak repaired time and time again. I have even heard of a person buying a new car after the repeated attempts at repair. Imagine their surprise when that new car starts leaking too.



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FAX MACHINES: Write whatever you wish on 9 pages of 8 1/2 by 11 inch paper and tape them together (end to end). Dial the victim's fax number and start sending the pages through. After page two has been transmitted, tape the top of page 1 to the bottom of page 9 making a continuous loop. The document will continue to cycle until the victim's fax machine has run out of paper. Be sure and disable your phone number from being printed on the fax and also disable caller I.D. This prank is great to get even with a business or individual who has somehow cheated you. This can have same results as OIL SPOT.

 

Check out rennlist 997 board, there is a guy with a RMS leak in a 997S.

 

Chris - was that ever documented? I thought there was some mystery to that story still.

 

Just read Austin's post. Guess so. Would be interesting to see how many of the launch cars become so afflicted. Could have been old parts bin used.

 

or it could just be porsche doesn't give a crap because the problem has been going on for 8 or 9 model years now and people still unknowingly buy them.


997 brethren suffer RMS too, appears systemic

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From the 997 discussion forum:

I can now officially verify for everyone that Porsche has NOT fixed the RMS problem on the 997 (and, now, I should add, presumably, the new Boxster).

My car (launch 997s) now has just over 7,150 miles on it and I took it to my dealer this morning to have the oil changed. I also asked them to take a look at everything else to make sure there were no problems. In the process of doing that, the mechanic spotted slight RMS leak. The necessary parts are on order now and the dealer is going to fix it ASAP early next week. Of course, I grilled my service advisor about the situation, explaining it was unacceptable and they said they are going to take care of it. He said they frequently fixed this same problem on base 996s (as I knew) but he explained that they key was fixing it early on. He said some customers with out-of-warranty 996s or Boxters would be told about an RMS problem but would not fix it due to the price (about 10 labor hours), which only compounded problems for such owners later down the road. Based on the experiences the rest of you have had (and what you have read), it would be good to develop a consensus about how "serious" this problem really is, given the launch of a new generation of 911s by Porsche.

This, of course, raises another issue. I definitely will NOT keep this car outside of warranty.
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