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Everyone that drives a black 911. How the hell do you keep it clean?

Old Dec 22, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Everyone that drives a black 911. How the hell do you keep it clean?

I just recently got my car fully detailed, so it got rid of the swirl marks that you always see on black cars. It was good for 2 weeks then I started to see it again more and more. I waxed it then it comes back. Now all my car wash stuff, the wash-mit and rims towel cleaner are always washed every time I use it. So it gets rid of the dirt.

Now what could be the problem here?

- need to change my car wash gadget?
- washing car in a wrong way/strategy?


My usual steps to wash my car

- rinse to blast the dust
- soap top then bottom
- rinse to dry
- dry
- spray quick wax detailer (everytime)

FRUSTRATED, BECAUSE I CAN'T GET IT DETAILED EVERYTIME AND GET THE SWIRL BACK. IF I DETAIL IT EVERYTIME I WILL LOSE MY CLEAR COAT.
 
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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I use three buckets when washing. I wash the wheels and tires with the first bucket then rinse the whole car. Then I use one bucket with soap and one with clear water. I dip my wash mit in the soap bucket and wash one potion of the car starting at the top. Then I rinse the mit in the clear water bucket before going in the soap bucket. This keeps the mit from reintroducing dirt onto the car. The dirt is what is scratching it. High quality car wash soap is a must.

Also I do not towel dry. Use a leaf blower to dry the car. I never use a dry towel on the car. If I have to use a towel to get the last bits I use a good quick detail spray on the towel.
 
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Age-old problem...not sure the is a definitive solution

Things to consider:
  1. Use a two bucket wash/rinse approach with w Grit Guard in the rinse bucket.
  2. Wash and rinse one panel at a time (clean the wash mitt with the Grit Guard after each panel). Work from top to bottom...wash the front bumper and lower sections last.
  3. Obviously do not wash in a circular motion...wash front-to-back as the air flows over the car.
  4. Use something like an Air Force Blaster to dry the car - not towels
  5. Use a Sealant instead of wax as the last step. Sealant will last longer and should offer more protection against swirls.
  6. Skip using the quick wax detailer (minimize contact with the paint)
 
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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You been getting bad details. Your retailer is doing a quick one step and wax at best. The swirls are not being completely removed and are being filled with wax. After a few washes it looks as bad as it did before. One way to check this is mix water and isopropyl achohol 50/50. Spray the solution on an area and wipe off with a microfiber towel. Shine a bright light on the panel and view at an angle. I bet you will see lots of swirls.
 
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+1 also what clickclickboom said.
 
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I would agree with the previous comments. For my dark colored paint, I use a random orbital buffer to remove the swirl marks. Once they are removed, I use a high quality wax. I do use spray wax after each wash and in between major waxings. I find that this technique works very well.

I use products from Griot's Garage, but there are many options out there.
 
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Are you using microfiber stuff?
 
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what is the best rated Wax to use on Black cars & also rims/lips ??
 
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I have a MY99 black 996 daily driver that is garaged in the evening, but is outside all day when at work. Every evening upon returning home, I use a california duster to lightly dust the car, then I wipe it down with a good microfiber. If I need to I'll use Adam's detail spray. Believe it or not I haven't washed the car in the last 2 months using this method. It definitely helps in not introducing new swirls to the car.

However, being black swirls eventually due show up after a while, no matter how careful you are.

Once a year I polish the swirls away using either my Porter Cable 7424 or my Flex.
 
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+1!
I knew this would happen to me so i bought a polisher and three different compounds.

About 3 months ago i did this:
Wash
Clay
Polish deep cut
Remove Polish
Polish Med cut
Remove polish
Polish Light cut
Remove
Hand Wax
Remove wax

It was a mission but it still looks great!


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You been getting bad details. Your retailer is doing a quick one step and wax at best. The swirls are not being completely removed and are being filled with wax. After a few washes it looks as bad as it did before. One way to check this is mix water and isopropyl achohol 50/50. Spray the solution on an area and wipe off with a microfiber towel. Shine a bright light on the panel and view at an angle. I bet you will see lots of swirls.
 
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I have zero swirl marks on my car. Never had any on my old black 911 either. I never use anything machine powered on either. Don't have any swirl marks on my black G550 either. I rinse the fake chamois mitt I use to wash them religiously, and never let it hit the ground. If it does. I wash it out for a minute or two on high power to remove anything that may have gotten in it.

It's all about making sure there is zero grit in anything you ever use to wash them.
 

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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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This is how I wash mine.... if there are swirls I failed to notice them somehow!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQXVljOJRg
 
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during the summer I wash my car once a week, and wax it every other week. Doesn't help that I don't have a real garage, just an overhang and when the gardeners come they seem to just blow all the debris on my car.

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use Optimum No Rinse once or twice a week with a two bucket wash method. This is safer and way more effective than a quick detailer, as it will not streak and contains polymers that bond to dirt and dont "drag" it. I use it all the time on my black Cayenne and have mostly kept the swirls away.
 

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