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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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Talking EVOMS 3.6L Supercharger

Todd at EVOMS tortured me today by giving me a ride in his first supercharged 3.6L 996. Car is an absolute animal. 430 HP with acceleration to match. Far greater acceleration than the 3.4L version. OMG eyewatering perfomance. For those of you waiting for data Todd will post it soon. Currently moving to new facility. For anyone considering upgrading their 3.6L the boost in performance is non-linear and absolutely eye watering.

Was just getting over the ride when James Moore arrived with his 720HP TT. James stunned me when he offered me his keys and said lets take it for a ride. 20 minutes later I returned with my view of acceleration forever altered. HP at the wheels was ridiculous. Fortunately the 101 was somewhat busy which prohibited me from approaching speeds that would have jailed for the entire holiday season. The kindness displayed by James was overwhelming, just like his car. It took quite awhile to come down from the high of driving a 720HP car. Afterwards I hopped into my beloved 02 C2 and the road to 60MPH has never seemed longer.
 
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David,

I am glad you enjoyed the SC 3.6L. With 430 HP to the wheels, this lucky owner will be terrorizing the streets looking for a 996TT to race

I feel kinda bad torturing you like that yesterday. Anytime you you need a power fix, just stop by we will have some keys waiting for you.
 
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430 to the wheels??????? how the heck did you do that vs. the 3.4 SC???
 
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Sorry ben, nothing I could do to help out the 3.4L. The 2004 3.6L motors have better electronics and a more advance vario cam which allows the motor to breathe better. The first pulley was creating 6.5 PSI and we were at 457 wheel HP. We then tried another pulley at 6 psi and it only dropped it to 438 wheel HP. The third pulley lowered the boost to 5 PSI and the power is at 420 wheel HP in 3rd gear and 430 wheel HP in 4th gear. We were only hoping for 400 wheel HP, I guess we should be happy with where we are at. The car is a missle and would give a slightly modded 996TT a run for it's money.
 
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Damn!!! Those are some really good numbers.
 
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wow, and that wasn't an X51? that's a huge diff between the 3.4 and 3.6 SCs, eh. maybe i need to sell mine and get a 3.6. i'm assuming the 02 3.6 is the same for this exercise as the 04?
 
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Thanks Todd. Remarkable product that completely changes the dynamic of the C2.
 
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Todd maybe I should just pick up an 03 cab cheap and send it to you - much cheaper than buyig a TT cab - dang I should have never sold my cab!

I am curious what the long term affects would be on the car though? Is it a must to upgrade the suspension and brakes as well or can the stock parts handle all the extra HP ?
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todd, "hypothetically" (hehe) would the SC from a 3.4 transfer to a 3.6? also, how's the "warm start" on the 3.6?
 

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Originally posted by ben, lj
wow, and that wasn't an X51? that's a huge diff between the 3.4 and 3.6 SCs, eh. maybe i need to sell mine and get a 3.6. i'm assuming the 02 3.6 is the same for this exercise as the 04?
Would it be possible to do a supercharger kit for a 3.6L X51 engine ?

Would the different cylinder heads and camshaft timing of the X51 make it difficult to do a supecharged ECU program for it ?

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Originally posted by Darren911
Todd maybe I should just pick up an 03 cab cheap and send it to you - much cheaper than buyig a TT cab - dang I should have never sold my cab!

I am curious what the long term affects would be on the car though? Is it a must to upgrade the suspension and brakes as well or can the stock parts handle all the extra HP ?
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Darren, The 3.6L that we just completed has stock suspension and brakes. The components can handle the extra power however if it were my car, I would install Pss9's and upgrade the brakes.

I think that these motors will be fine. I can say that on our end (the tuning side) the upgrade is totally safe. We have reduced the ignition timing, we have plenty of fuel (at WOT in 4th gear we are at 12:1 AFR) and we are only running .35 bar of boost (5 PSI).
 
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Originally posted by thunderc4s
Would it be possible to do a supercharger kit for a 3.6L X51 engine ?

Would the different cylinder heads and camshaft timing of the X51 make it difficult to do a supecharged ECU program for it ?

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The improved breathing on the X51 will most likely translate into more HP. I anticipate an additional 10-15HP. Since we already have the tuning completed for the 3.6L the X51 will not be that difficult
 
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Originally posted by ben, lj
todd, "hypothetically" (hehe) would the SC from a 3.4 transfer to a 3.6? also, how's the "warm start" on the 3.6?
Ben, the kit will fit on the 3.6L and the warm start is not a problem. Are you planning something?????
 
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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"Are you planning something?????"

possibly. you got a lot more hp out of the 3.6 and if the warm start problem is not a part of the 3.6 (and therefore more likely to pass CA emissions), i might buy a 3.6 car and sell mine.
 
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Originally posted by Todd @ EVO
Sorry ben, nothing I could do to help out the 3.4L. The 2004 3.6L motors have better electronics and a more advance vario cam which allows the motor to breathe better. The first pulley was creating 6.5 PSI and we were at 457 wheel HP. We then tried another pulley at 6 psi and it only dropped it to 438 wheel HP. The third pulley lowered the boost to 5 PSI and the power is at 420 wheel HP in 3rd gear and 430 wheel HP in 4th gear. We were only hoping for 400 wheel HP, I guess we should be happy with where we are at. The car is a missle and would give a slightly modded 996TT a run for it's money.
Toad your mail box is full. Just wondering how much the SC's go for i'm thinking of getting one for my 02 C4S..
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