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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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996 SC owners, 1/4 miles ?

Hey fellas,

I'm sure some of you guys run your SC'd machines at the track and 1/4 mile, so I'm sure some of you will have real data.

I get asked all the time about the performance of my 996 EVO SC machine and don't really have any good answer other than "its pretty quick", which never really deters Honda owners with coffee can exhausts from claiming numbers of biblical proportions that clearly cannot be true.



Mine is your typical Y2K 3.4L EVO SC with FVD headers and pipes, ssk etc. I'm trying to get a feel for 1/4 mile and 0-60 times, and dyno numbers (wheels or crank)

I seem to recall someone telling me (I think it may have been Sharky) that someone ran an 11.9 in the same configuration as mine.



Anyway, anyone have any real world 0-60, 1/4 mile or dyno results for a similar setup ?

 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...&highlight=evo
2002 996 3.6ltr C4S - Evo Supercharger, FVD Headers, Cargraphic exhaust
411 RWHP (), 80deg, Phoenix-AZ, ()
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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...&highlight=evo
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412 RWHP, () , (), (), ()
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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...&highlight=evo
1999 996 3.4ltr C2 - Evo Supercharger, Fabspeed Headers, Fabspeed exhaust
389 RWHP (), (), Anaheim-CA, Dynojet



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2002 996 3.6ltr C2 - Stock
271 RWHP/242 RWTQ (), (), FL, Dynojet
(see next DeputyDog95 chart - green lines)


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424 RWHP/329 RWTQ (), (), FL, Dynojet



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2005 997S - EVO Supercharged ,Fabspeed Mufflers, Awe Tuning Headers, Hiflo Cats
445 RWHP/332 RWTQ (), (), (), Dynojet
 

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So it seems....
270 RWHP 2002-04 996 3.6ltr C2 Stock
400 RWHP 2002-04 996 3.6ltr C2 with an Evo Supercharger
410-425 RWHP 2002-04 996 C2 with an Evo Supercharger (plus good header and exhaust)
445 RWHP 2005 997S with an Evo Supercharger (plus good header, exhaust, hi-flo cats
 
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I'd like to know a real answer to the original post also. I have seen dyno numbers quoted many times, but in all those posts above no one says anything about what the actual 1/4 mile ET actually is for NA996 with a supercharger. Is it really as fast or faster than a stock turbo? Obviously not going to compare to a modded turbo....
Anyone with a 1/4 mile time on a either EVOMS or TPC supercharger?
 
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Originally Posted by AG996LV
I'd like to know a real answer to the original post also. I have seen dyno numbers quoted many times, but in all those posts above no one says anything about what the actual 1/4 mile ET actually is for NA996 with a supercharger. Is it really as fast or faster than a stock turbo? Obviously not going to compare to a modded turbo....
Anyone with a 1/4 mile time on a either EVOMS or TPC supercharger?
Some are even fatser than a stage 3 Turbo.
 
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It's all about the driver, power, weight, and grip when comparing 996's (turbo, NA, SC). 2960lb for a C2 compared to 3390lb for a turbo and combine that with 425RWHP for a SC'd C2 and I would say that with equal drivers and reasonable tires an SC'd C2 would have a good change against a stage 1 stage 2 and (unlikely a) stage 3 (487rwhp). The problem against a stage 3 is that it is virtually same power to weight (in this scenario) so all that is left is grip and assuming they left it with 4wd the turbo has more grip.

Not to go off-topic but has anyone seen a dyno of a stage 3 with 480+rwhp without other mods and without it being from the vendor? At least in the SC world it seems that sometimes the dyno numbers come out a bit higher than what people really seem to get.
 
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
Some are even fatser than a stage 3 Turbo.
Really? My full weight car as a AWD Stage 2 went 11.65 @ 126. Has a S/C 996 gone faster than that?

On that same note, if anyone has timeslips and/or video of their 1/4 mile runs with their S/C 996...let me know and I'll add them to the 1/4 top dog list:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ad.php?t=55163
 

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Originally Posted by schnazzy
Not to go off-topic but has anyone seen a dyno of a stage 3 with 480+rwhp without other mods and without it being from the vendor? At least in the SC world it seems that sometimes the dyno numbers come out a bit higher than what people really seem to get.
480 to the wheels (AWD or RWD) is more like Stage 4 / Stage 5.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Really? My full weight car as a AWD Stage 2 went 11.65 @ 126. Has a S/C 996 gone faster than that?

On that same note, if anyone has timeslips and/or video of their 1/4 mile runs with their S/C 996...let me know and I'll add them to the 1/4 top dog list:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ad.php?t=55163
scott, you have to admit, you have a freakishly fast stage 2. seems like there are people with a lot more power putting down slower times than you.

i don't remember the thread, but i thought they had a 11.7 with the 997 3.8 liter an and 11.9 with the 3.6 liter. i don't remember the trap speeds being all that impressive though. i'm sure somebody can find that thread. evo used to link the story on it, but they don't have it up anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by schnazzy
It's all about the driver, power, weight, and grip when comparing 996's (turbo, NA, SC). 2960lb for a C2 compared to 3390lb for a turbo and combine that with 425RWHP for a SC'd C2 and I would say that with equal drivers and reasonable tires an SC'd C2 would have a good change against a stage 1 stage 2 and (unlikely a) stage 3 (487rwhp).
you can't look at just HP numbers and weight. the TT's make way more torque and they make it very low. the SC's don't make nearly as much and it's higher in the rev range.

i know GaryFL's TT (stage4.2) absolutely crushes my car. i can't even see me hanging with a stage 2 for that matter. a stock TT, maybe.... haven't had the chance to run a stock one yet. the SC's really lack the torque to whip up on TT's. i would like to see some SC charts overlayed with stock and stage1-2 TT's. now i have taken out 3.6 and 3.8 liter cars with ease. turbos, ehhh...not so confident.
 
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
scott, you have to admit, you have a freakishly fast stage 2. seems like there are people with a lot more power putting down slower times than you.
I think that's mostly due to people having inflated dyno numbers. That's the primary reason I dislike dynos so much. But ya...my car was definitely quick when it was Stage 2.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
480 to the wheels (AWD or RWD) is more like Stage 4 / Stage 5.

http://www.evoms.com/WebSiteUsers/ev...0Comp%20HP.jpg

Maybe this is a different Stage3, maybe this is BHP, but they say 488hp (GT550 stage3).

11.65 1/4 mile is impressive and your link to the 1/4 is awesome. Mathmatically a supercharged C2 should be in the high 11's and possibly mids. I too would like to see some timeslips. I'd also like to see more non-turbo 996's in your list (people just need to submit them).
 
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