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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by raclaims
We are on the same page Joe!
I spoke to a few vendors...some of which are highly recommended here...but in the end went with Alan at Jack Daniels again.
I'm sure there will be another meet soon.

I'm also struggling with which exhaust to get as well...JDs is having a motorsports day in a week or so...why don't we meet there? Alan said that all the mods you would ever want to see will be there to check out.

So I guess you bought the car out at lease termination??
Justin - I am definitely interested in going to the JD event and meeting up. Will your ECU be done?

I have a year left on the lease and I am going to buy it out. with these mods, the car will be pretty much perfect. No reason to lease a new turbo.
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Cool man...I think it's the 27th

Yes the flash and new PSS10s will be done and you can check out my HREs and Techart kit too...

I'll get the firm date and let you know.
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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I thought I noticed the wheels in your avatar - Black HREs are sweet!
 
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What about insurance ?

It is not surprising to hear that an ECU install may or may not affect one's warranty, but i thought another important consideration would be the difference it makes to one's yearly insurance.

I have always been asked by insurance companies if any modifications a car has, and what they might be.

Does it not affect your insurance in the US?
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Good question - my insurance company never asked about engine mods, just about accessories like aftermarket stereo systems, wheels, body kits, etc.
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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This is a very good post +1. Yes for the most part we know these motors are strong so the risks are minimal but I also think that lying to your service advisor is not really getting off on the right foot. Being up front is always best. A good SA will work with you and they'll fix what can be fixed under warranty. Most of these guys aren't dumb and know they can't necessarily attribute something that's broken to a mod etc... They'd have to prove it. They also know that a lot of us want to tweak and play around with these cars

So yes to get the most "power" from the get go.. the ECU is the right first mod. Only thing is that I don't believe in having the same one file for all cars/situations. So if you have a stock exhaust make sure your software is set up for those hardware parameters. If you upgrade to an exhaust at a later date then make sure you get your ECU/software updated... That's the only drawback of doing the exhaust at a later date... That and the extra $. Keep your eyes open etc... I've seen a good few used exhausts out there for cheap too.
Alex is dead on. No need to wate money getting your ECU re-programed again after new mods. Get the exhaust done first and then the ECU.
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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I think what GotBoost and Alex are stating, is that you should tune your porsche methodically. i agree to that. it would save u hassle and money
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Exhaust with high flow cats will decrease backpressure and significantly reduce lag. OEM cats have 600 cells per square inch (CPSI.) Most low flow cats are 200 or 300 cell units. 100 cell units are best, but require ECU reprogramming to prevent CEL warnings.

If you want to reduce lag, a good exhaust works helps a lot. Not to mention, decreased EGT (exhaust gas temperatures) which is always good especially if you reprogram your ECU in the future.
How is the reprogramming done, and who does it??
 
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Makes total sense.

Exhaust first. then reprogram so as not to reprogram twice.

Thanks everyone!
 
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Stage I = Exhaust
Stage II = Exhaust + ECU (optional: sports air filter)

You need to release the back pressure that the stock exhaust has for the ECU tune to be realized.

So you definitely should do the exhaust first.
 
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Originally Posted by raclaims
Cool man...I think it's the 27th

Yes the flash and new PSS10s will be done and you can check out my HREs and Techart kit too...

I'll get the firm date and let you know.
Justin - any word on Saturday? looking forward to meeting up.
 
Old Jun 23, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Yes it's on...and I'm going...not sure exactly what time yet but it starts at 7:30am. I prefer to go early...PM me and we'll coordinate.
 
Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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wouldn't you need to reprogram the ecu if you get an exhaust after? Should get exhaust first and get the one program
 
Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by raclaims
Yes it's on...and I'm going...not sure exactly what time yet but it starts at 7:30am. I prefer to go early...PM me and we'll coordinate.
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