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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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No idea Casey, GMG did all the work, I plan on making some additions suspension wise shortly to sort it all out. Lesson learned, should have done coil overs and the rest of the parts from the get go.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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It always pays to do suspension as a package... everything works together. Let me know if you have any questions. We know a little about suspension.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Casey@TPCRacing
It always pays to do suspension as a package... everything works together. Let me know if you have any questions. We know a little about suspension.
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Have H&R springs, 'GT3' spec alignment. Previous owner essentially balded the rear OEM Bridgestones in about 8000 miles. I'm moving to Damptronics with a 'healthy' drop. Aside from the toe link kit, what, if anything else, would you recommend for handling and tire preservation with a similar alignment?
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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What are your goals? Do you drive the car on the track? Do you just want a very low street car with better than stock handling?
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Casey@TPCRacing
What are your goals? Do you drive the car on the track? Do you just want a very low street car with better than stock handling?
The latter, although track driving is not out of the question.
 
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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My first recommendation is always swaybars, this will alleviate the majority of the lean your car has in cornering. W/the swaybars you will need drop links. Our links are incredible but they are race parts so they make noise at low speeds. The Damptronic coilovers are good but we feel the progressive spring rates in the front wrong(so we hot rod them and make adjustments to the factory PASM control unit).

Your car will need adjustable toe links for proper tire wear and adjustment. The only proper way to correct excessive rear camber is to use adjustable rear GT3 control arms, for most street applications the rear tire wear is caused by toe and not camber.

We sell all of these parts, but we over-engineer them to work perfectly, so it costs more than just off the shelf parts.

We do know suspension and have won a lot of Pro races with the parts that we engineer... but we also drive extremely fast and composed street cars.
 
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Originally Posted by bonehead
At what point (i.e. how much lowering) is getting the toe link kit a good idea?
Hi BH, with respect to improved response and feedback, at ANY point. Outside of improved tire wear as Casey has mentioned, since after-market rear toe link replaces factory rubber bushing with teflon lined spherical rod end (metallic), the improved response and feedback should be felt regardless of how much, or whether you lower car.

Although I have no personal experience, every tuner I've spoken to recommends the rear toe link replacement as an improvement that doesn't have much penalty (NVH). I only have not done it because the car feels perfect for me now and I don't want to mess around with a good thing; I don't track my car; and laziness.
 
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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Hi Casey, great advice as always.
Although a number of good vendors (Tarrett, GMG, TRG, etc.) sell the rear toe control arm, I would like to get the one from Porsche Motorsports itself and am about to call them up. Do you sell the Porche Motorsports rear toe control arm?

Originally Posted by Casey@TPCRacing
My first recommendation is always swaybars, this will alleviate the majority of the lean your car has in cornering. W/the swaybars you will need drop links. Our links are incredible but they are race parts so they make noise at low speeds. The Damptronic coilovers are good but we feel the progressive spring rates in the front wrong(so we hot rod them and make adjustments to the factory PASM control unit).

Your car will need adjustable toe links for proper tire wear and adjustment. The only proper way to correct excessive rear camber is to use adjustable rear GT3 control arms, for most street applications the rear tire wear is caused by toe and not camber.

We sell all of these parts, but we over-engineer them to work perfectly, so it costs more than just off the shelf parts.

We do know suspension and have won a lot of Pro races with the parts that we engineer... but we also drive extremely fast and composed street cars.
 
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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We can get parts from motorsports but we have taken the original cup link and improved it by using, what we feel, are the best components available.

http://tpcracing.com/products/TPC-Pr...ble-Toe-Links/
 
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