Just intake and exhaust, NO software, any results?
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you are making my thread a sales thread for your own company.
and that does not look good.
Stop trying to attract customers as that attitude kills the taste of the thread.
I did not ask for your software/warranty claims.
you already could not answer how you added 120 hp.
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Mike,
you are making my thread a sales thread for your own company.
and that does not look good.
Stop trying to attract customers as that attitude kills the taste of the thread.
I did not ask for your software/warranty claims.
you already could not answer how you added 120 hp.
you are making my thread a sales thread for your own company.
and that does not look good.
Stop trying to attract customers as that attitude kills the taste of the thread.
I did not ask for your software/warranty claims.
you already could not answer how you added 120 hp.
Mike
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What were your friend's circumstances? Were the warranty claims unrelated to an ECU flash?
PCNA can and probably would try to void the entire warranty, even if failure of a component/system was unrelated to the modification. Legally, of course, they can't do this as I understand it (Magnuson-Moss). What happens in reality....well, that's probably a different situation altogether.
PCNA can and probably would try to void the entire warranty, even if failure of a component/system was unrelated to the modification. Legally, of course, they can't do this as I understand it (Magnuson-Moss). What happens in reality....well, that's probably a different situation altogether.
I don't think the M-M act would apply to an altered ECU, an aftermarket part yes.
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any unshielded intake
Keep in mind the likely points of restriction on the intake path are the convoluted ducts to the compressor inlets, and the throttle body plate. The airbox has some much more cross sectional area that it is unlikely to ever be a source of restriction
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I see your point...However usually sound makes a difference in intakes...So when you use an intake and hear a whooping sound of the turbos (from the intake) there is a difference in both ,power and torque...less restrictions means more flow...resulting in more air entering into combustion chamber...The key is to datalog intake temperatures before and after the mod...i am thinking of doing that with my piwis or durametric...Datalog with Fabspeed and then reinstall OEM to see differences...
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Thanks for the input guys. To the OP, sorry man I'm not trying to hijack your thread! Hopefully this info is useful to you too.
Since I paid 3gs for the CPO warranty it doesn't really make sense to do things that could void it!
Since I paid 3gs for the CPO warranty it doesn't really make sense to do things that could void it!
Not 45,000$, crate price for a new engine.
The dealer's 'ok' with it means sh$t to PCNA, there is no way PCNA is going to look the other way with a significant engine claim just because of the stealer's word, the dealer has zero input into those decisions. With mods like ECU flashes you are taking your own risk, to imply otherwise is simply not true.
Granted, the motor (997.1tt) is bulletproof, but nothing is free. More HP=more stress on mechanical parts.
The dealer's 'ok' with it means sh$t to PCNA, there is no way PCNA is going to look the other way with a significant engine claim just because of the stealer's word, the dealer has zero input into those decisions. With mods like ECU flashes you are taking your own risk, to imply otherwise is simply not true.
Granted, the motor (997.1tt) is bulletproof, but nothing is free. More HP=more stress on mechanical parts.
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My understanding is that they can ALWAYS tell if the software has been changed even if it has been changed back. Granted, they have to go looking specifically for this, not just a routine check. But if you blow up your engine I think it's fair to assume they'll look at things veeeery closely to see what happened.
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There is only 1 true cold air intake for the 997 or 996TT...it is the Protomotive style under fender well system. All other intakes are based on some modified theme of sucking air from within the engine bay.
When you consider an intake, you need to look at temperature and flow. Like Gene said, flow is restricted by the twisted tubing that sites behind the engine bay. Intake temperatures, specifically, IATs hardly change with any engine bay CAIs based on my datalogging. If you are worried about temperatures, change your ICs.
Why do dynos show HP increases with CAI's then? Look at how the dyno is set up...with the rear hatch open, and fans blowing from the rear. This hardly simulates real driving environments.
My IATs dropped ZERO degrees with Fabspeed's CAI using stock intercoolers at idle and at WOT to about 125 mph at Road America. If you want to prevent your car from pulling timing when temperatures climb, invest in ICs, not a CAI. If you want better flow, change the intake piping to Protomotive's MAFless in-fender style intakes, or change the piping with TechArt or EVOMs wider diameter tubing.
When you consider an intake, you need to look at temperature and flow. Like Gene said, flow is restricted by the twisted tubing that sites behind the engine bay. Intake temperatures, specifically, IATs hardly change with any engine bay CAIs based on my datalogging. If you are worried about temperatures, change your ICs.
Why do dynos show HP increases with CAI's then? Look at how the dyno is set up...with the rear hatch open, and fans blowing from the rear. This hardly simulates real driving environments.
My IATs dropped ZERO degrees with Fabspeed's CAI using stock intercoolers at idle and at WOT to about 125 mph at Road America. If you want to prevent your car from pulling timing when temperatures climb, invest in ICs, not a CAI. If you want better flow, change the intake piping to Protomotive's MAFless in-fender style intakes, or change the piping with TechArt or EVOMs wider diameter tubing.
Last edited by bbywu; Apr 14, 2010 at 01:22 PM.