they charge 120/h so about 500 dollars

 

I'd be interested to know how much he charged you. Did you wait while he did it or did you drop it off and picked up later? Hard to believe it was only 2 hours. Was he taking off a stock muffler or changing one A/M system for another?

I'd be happy paying 500. Out here they would be looking at double that im sure.

 

did you had any studs still on the turbo? if so are you planning on taking them out , and if so how, i have one stud on each side still in the turbo

 

Mine are all loose but one or two, and my guess is that it will come out if I double nut it or at worst, put on vice grips. I have a MIG at my disposal too so if it gives me too much trouble or breaks I'll mig a nut on it and back it out. Usually the heat from the mig will loosen it up itself, nothing like a cherry red stud.

 

Here you go. I was there for both installs and did some minor assisting. The first R&R was replacing the OEM exhaust in which the bumper was removed. That job took a full 2 hours. The second was R&R an a/m exhaust where the bumper was not removed. That job took about 1.5 hours. Like I said, Victor is very good with the wrench.

 

Use a stud removing tool. Its a socket that goes over the stud and has a grip inside which tightens onto the base of the stud when you turn. If you havent got one then get one from your tool supplier. Try double nutting first but if the thread is already damaged use the stud remover. The stud remover puts a firm grip right at the base of the stud. If the stud is really frozen then be careful as they can snap. If it doesnt want to come then dress the thread up with a die nut. If it breaks off in the turbo housing then there will be far more work. Drill out...helicoil etc.

Dont use vice grips. Once you totally destroy the thread there is no going back if the stud wount come out. You could try the mig ..sure...but again if it wont come and youve toasted the thread then youll have some bigger problems. When you do the re instal dont use the factory 997tt lock nuts. We used the nuts for the 996tt which dont lock on like the studs like the 997tt nuts. If you want to take it off again or change the system over at a later stage you wont get the same degree of thread damage on the studs if they stay in.

Thanks TT. Youve proven your point with the 2hrs. I will have a few slices of humble pie for my morning tea this morning although I still find it hard to believe that it was done in 1.5 hours the second time round. It must have been a scramble and a real race against the clock . I note that even your guy chose to remove the bar when originally removing the stock muffler . I also know from our own experience removing the stock muffler it would have been a bear of a job getting it off with the bar on .
Removing a much smaller and skinnier muffler like a Tubi is a different ball game altogether however we still chose to remove the bar on the second install purely because the Europipe EP1 muffler has all the heat sheilding and is much the same size dimensionally as the stock muffler. I guess if we were taking the Tubi off and putting another skinny muffler back on again then we could have left the bar on (buy why). It only takes 10 to 15 minutes to remove the 2 rear wheels, splash gaurds, rear bar, rear heat shielding etc and then you've got full access to everything in the event something presents itself as being difficult .
So, lets say that particular excersice takes 30 to 45 minutes on the R and R (taking your time) .
On this second Europipe EP1 install (when we removed the Tubi) we took around 4/ 4.5 hours as were enjoying the job too much (crazy as it may sound to some). It was honestly such a georgeous system to install we embelished the job every step of the way at a very leasurely pace in awe of how perfectly everything fitted up....it was amazing, a sight for sore eyes . Tubi was a much different story . Anyway having everything at our finger tips also made the job fun and we really didnt want it to end in a way . I honestly reckon if we were asked again to R and R it on a stop watch inc removing bar wheels etc etc we could do it in 3 hours being careful with everything along the way. Practice makes perfect .
Cheers P .

 

Update on my Tubi install. A friend suggested Royal Muffler in Chatsworth, Calif. for the install. Jimmy the owner is a real **** nut. When I called and asked him how much experience he had with TT exhausts, he told me he had 25 installs under his belt.
When I arrived at his shop I was impressed. Clean, orderly and about 5 exotics being worked on. One was a TT.
He charged me $400 for the work.
I'm just posting this for anyone in the area that might need exhaust work done. Thanks to all who responded to my original post for help.
Best
dave29

 

You are a very wise man Dave. $400.00 for a tubi install is a no brainer particularly if youve never done one before and/or dont have all the equipment. It can be a steep learning curve.

Glad to hear you are happy and "enjoy in good health"!!!

 

I paid 400 Canadian bucks (was close to 400US at that time) and it took 2 guys nearly 5 hours to do it. It was a used AWE system and I brought it to them assembled.

 

speed21...thanks for the kind words. By the way...he didn't take off the rear bumper.

 

Cool. And 25 installs on.. doing it with the bumper on may keep the job interesting i guess...

 

I had TUBI exhaust installed on my 09 997.2 last week at Champion Motorsport in Pompano, Fl.
Dropped my car at 9:00 AM, was issued a loaner, and, checked my cell phone call log, received a call just before noon that my car was ready.
Labor cost for installation: $250...............
Cant beat it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Sure 250's nice but fitting a Tubi to a 997c2 is an absolute sinch compared to fitting a tubi on to a 997turbo. Let me tell you there's a HUGE difference. I recall fitting tubi mufflers to my last 997c2S and it was a breeze....took no time at all. Bumper on etc. I later did the headers as well.....an relatively easy job too. I recall my P dealer over here quoting 300.00 but i passed that up. Tubi mufflers/bipass on a 997 is a very sweet exhaust tho . Sounds way better than a tubi on a 997tt.
Enjoy!!