thoughts on upgrading turbos....

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Nov 26, 2010 | 09:41 PM
  #76  
Quote: TTdude and The Bogg

The quickest 6speed 997tt which is ran 60-130 in 6.66sec on pumpgas already has extrude housing for almost a year now

I though u guys already now
Yeah, that's a great time, especially on pump. Any data on race gas yet? As you know, Madsex has a 5.59 on stock vtgs so I'm not convinced hotside extrude is worth the extra $$ based on numbers alone but everyone that has them seems to really like them.
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Nov 26, 2010 | 11:58 PM
  #77  
Quote: I agree. All I'm saying is if the money back guarantee is real, then anyone can load up APR software and test it out regardless if you have a Proto tune or whatever as long as you still have stock vtgs. Obviously, with a Proto tune, you can just reflash it back to Proto very easily through the OBDII port. I would do it just to test it out but I don't have stock vtg's.
I will look into calling them again and see if they do a free trial. May not be till the new year though as too much on leading up to xmas. But you are right about one thing....the tune is on all accounts faster than basically everything else 60 to 130 so it represents good bang for buck.

Quote: A fair question. Different people have different priorities. For me the 60-130 time is most important. I don't really care about going much faster than that, and it's not even that often that I go over 100mph.
Likewise boggy. 60 to 130 is most important. Over 100 mph can lead to some serious problems with the law for many. Plus im sure APR isnt slow over that.

Quote: On the other hand,when we are saying APR pushes the motor too hard,we need to consider that modified VTGs push the motor as well...So in either way motor will be pushed...
Finally of course APR flash is ONLY for standard VTGs.
Yes....fair call skand. You are right that all tunes cause more stress than stock ecu settings so APR shouldnt be any more stressfull than others given the high HP tunes run similar or even more boost.

Quote: Yeah, that's a great time, especially on pump. Any data on race gas yet? As you know, Madsex has a 5.59 on stock vtgs so I'm not convinced hotside extrude is worth the extra $$ based on numbers alone but everyone that has them seems to really like them.
Again its hard to overlook the APR 60 to 130 time when other high end tunes that incur far greater spends struggle to come close. It does make for a compelling argument thats for sure.
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Nov 27, 2010 | 06:49 AM
  #78  
Quote: Yeah, that's a great time, especially on pump. Any data on race gas yet? As you know, Madsex has a 5.59 on stock vtgs so I'm not convinced hotside extrude is worth the extra $$ based on numbers alone but everyone that has them seems to really like them.
It is all over dude...We discussed that already and that car still has stock rims/tires.

BTW...ED shaved 0.2 went from RE11 to PS2 tires so it is damn huge factor

I wonder how much we could shave with lightweight rims/tires
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Nov 27, 2010 | 06:59 AM
  #79  
Quote: I will look into calling them again and see if they do a free trial. May not be till the new year though as too much on leading up to xmas. But you are right about one thing....the tune is on all accounts faster than basically everything else 60 to 130 so it represents good bang for buck.



Likewise boggy. 60 to 130 is most important. Over 100 mph can lead to some serious problems with the law for many. Plus im sure APR isnt slow over that.



Yes....fair call skand. You are right that all tunes cause more stress than stock ecu settings so APR shouldnt be any more stressfull than others given the high HP tunes run similar or even more boost.



Again its hard to overlook the APR 60 to 130 time when other high end tunes that incur far greater spends struggle to come close. It does make for a compelling argument thats for sure.

I'm sure there is plenty of members ( other than Greece members ) has APR tune but im not sure why they didnt share their 60-130 yet

Noy sure if u read this before

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...o-testing.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-software.html
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Nov 27, 2010 | 07:03 AM
  #80  
Quote: It is all over dude...We discussed that already

BTW...The car still has stock rims/tires
shotcaller have you ever logged IAT's with your setup on a longer pull? pm me if you have
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Nov 27, 2010 | 07:20 AM
  #81  
Quote: shotcaller have you ever logged IAT's with your setup on a longer pull? pm me if you have
Never log the IAT but i know a friend with Proto GT kit log his IAT..let u know as soon as i get the log
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Nov 27, 2010 | 04:06 PM
  #82  
Quote: I'm sure there is plenty of members ( other than Greece members ) has APR tune but im not sure why they didnt share their 60-130 yet

Noy sure if u read this before

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...o-testing.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-software.html
I agree that part is a mystery. I've been hoping for some time now that we would see more times presented by other APR users.
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Nov 27, 2010 | 04:10 PM
  #83  
I wish Chris from USP chime in.
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Nov 27, 2010 | 04:21 PM
  #84  
Quote: I wish Chris from USP chime in.

Yep. It would sure help some if he could do a 60 to 130 and put an end to all the confusion. The greek guys sure have been left carrying a lot of weight on their shoulders for APR....and the silence on this subject is not a very good look for everyone with APR. Someone really needs to step up and fix this confusion once and for all. Its becoming like an X file.
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Nov 27, 2010 | 10:43 PM
  #85  
Quote: It is all over dude...We discussed that already and that car still has stock rims/tires.

BTW...ED shaved 0.2 went from RE11 to PS2 tires so it is damn huge factor

I wonder how much we could shave with lightweight rims/tires
Yeah, lightweight wheels make a difference. I believe Skand had on some very lightweight CF shoes when he established that record time. Madsex on the otherhand had stock wheels but nevertheless a very fast time for stock vtgs.
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Nov 28, 2010 | 07:55 AM
  #86  
Not sure if you can extrapolate data, but Chris from USP hit 11.1 at 128 in the quarter. Let's say he did a 4 sec 0-60, can you then assume the 60-128 time was 7.1 and therefore the 60-130 something like 7.3-7.4?
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Nov 28, 2010 | 08:51 AM
  #87  
Quote: Not sure if you can extrapolate data, but Chris from USP hit 11.1 at 128 in the quarter. Let's say he did a 4 sec 0-60, can you then assume the 60-128 time was 7.1 and therefore the 60-130 something like 7.3-7.4?
A WOT 0-Vmax run may not be the optimal way to achieve a good 60-130 run. It makes the data hard to extrapolate.

bob
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Nov 28, 2010 | 12:42 PM
  #88  
Quote: A WOT 0-Vmax run may not be the optimal way to achieve a good 60-130 run. It makes the data hard to extrapolate.

bob
I vaguely recall this being discussed before. Is it b/c of heat soak? You should be on max boost the whole way up b/c you're trying to get through the quarter mile as fast as possible so you would think you would be at max performance unless there was some bottleneck from heat soak or something similar.
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Nov 28, 2010 | 01:05 PM
  #89  
Quote: I vaguely recall this being discussed before. Is it b/c of heat soak? You should be on max boost the whole way up b/c you're trying to get through the quarter mile as fast as possible so you would think you would be at max performance unless there was some bottleneck from heat soak or something similar.
Alot of people are getting there insane times by brake boosting n launching the car at say 50mph to 130. Some full throttle rubs from a 1/4 or 1 mike might have two shifts between 60-130 and thus be slighty slower.
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Nov 28, 2010 | 02:29 PM
  #90  
Quote: Not sure if you can extrapolate data, but Chris from USP hit 11.1 at 128 in the quarter. Let's say he did a 4 sec 0-60, can you then assume the 60-128 time was 7.1 and therefore the 60-130 something like 7.3-7.4?
Plus Chris was ran MS109 not good pumpgas
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