Amazing Turbo S!!!
Amazing Turbo S!!!
After many runs I had with various different cars, I've finally did the GIAC ECU tuned yesterday. The reason I wanted to keep stock for so long was because I wanted to see how fast it really is compared to other cars.
Against my 458, it's like this.
Obviously, dead-stop is a Turbo S WIN. But besides the dead-stop, all rolling starts was a 458 WIN. I actually conducted the test up to around 150. So, I kinda expected for the 458 to pull more at higher speeds.
So, finally 2 weeks ago, I tested my Turbo S and 458 from 60 to 190 MPH.
I did a couple testings. I was very surprised to see that the Turbo S was actually dead even at high speeds against the Turbo S.
So, it's like this.
458 pulls first. It pulls 1~2 cars... Then 3~4 cars... Then 4~5 cars... At this moment, it's around 150 MPH.
But guess what? it "STAYS" at 5 cars from 150~190!!!
I did the Dyno test at GIAC before and after the ECU flash.
I got 475WHP!!! And this dyno, they say, reads VERY VERY conservatively.
997.1 Turbos (480BHP) only reads 380WHP in this dyno, Garrett says.
Audi R8 V10 (525BHP) read 400WHP
997.2 Turbo (500BHP) only reads 410~420WHP.
And I got 475WHP!!! No wonder it could keep up with the 562 BHP 458 Italia even at high speeds!!!
Mathematically 475WHP at this dyno would translate to 600BHP at the crank, GIAC says. It might have less drivetrain loss but even with that it definitely isn't 530BHP that Porsche says...
Another Turbo S that they measured before my car got 475WHP at this dyno, as well, so mine isn't a stronger sample... It's pretty much consistent.
We had the ECU flash and dyno read 511WHP, a 36WHP increase. This isn't much increase considering the fact that the regular Turbo would have about 55WHP increase but this is understandable because Turbo S is already pushing almost at its limits.
I will definitely test it against the 458 again and post the results.
I tried to find out more tuning parts available but unfortunately, it's much different from the regular turbo so nothing is available. Only Champion and AWE have "custom" made parts that are available, they say. But I would rather wait for a non-custom parts (=common) unless anyone could supply them at a reasonable price.
I think this is a very fast car straight out from the factory. For the money, it's definitely worth it.
I will have this Turbo S tuned all the bolt-ons. 458, I will pretty much keep stock unless Capristo develops a nice peaky sound exhaust.
I will most likely sell the FX50 and buy two other cars. One Minivan (because of kids) and one really fast car. Here is the list of candidates.
(1) ZR1 with few bolt-on mods will make close to 800BHP.
(2) Gallardo or LP560 and Underground or Heffner Twin Turbo with 650WHP (93 octane)/ 850WHP (100 octane) setting.
(3) Same as (2) but with an Audi R8 V10.
(4) 997.1 Turbo and go all out. GIAC says it can safely push 850WHP with high modifications.
(5) 2012 GTR and tune it whatever tuning comes out. My friend's 2009 GTR is now pushing 830WHP with C16 so I don't think the same or higher numbers would be impossible with the 2012 model.
Any other candidates that you guys can think of?
Against my 458, it's like this.
Obviously, dead-stop is a Turbo S WIN. But besides the dead-stop, all rolling starts was a 458 WIN. I actually conducted the test up to around 150. So, I kinda expected for the 458 to pull more at higher speeds.
So, finally 2 weeks ago, I tested my Turbo S and 458 from 60 to 190 MPH.
I did a couple testings. I was very surprised to see that the Turbo S was actually dead even at high speeds against the Turbo S.
So, it's like this.
458 pulls first. It pulls 1~2 cars... Then 3~4 cars... Then 4~5 cars... At this moment, it's around 150 MPH.
But guess what? it "STAYS" at 5 cars from 150~190!!!
I did the Dyno test at GIAC before and after the ECU flash.
I got 475WHP!!! And this dyno, they say, reads VERY VERY conservatively.
997.1 Turbos (480BHP) only reads 380WHP in this dyno, Garrett says.
Audi R8 V10 (525BHP) read 400WHP
997.2 Turbo (500BHP) only reads 410~420WHP.
And I got 475WHP!!! No wonder it could keep up with the 562 BHP 458 Italia even at high speeds!!!
Mathematically 475WHP at this dyno would translate to 600BHP at the crank, GIAC says. It might have less drivetrain loss but even with that it definitely isn't 530BHP that Porsche says...
Another Turbo S that they measured before my car got 475WHP at this dyno, as well, so mine isn't a stronger sample... It's pretty much consistent.
We had the ECU flash and dyno read 511WHP, a 36WHP increase. This isn't much increase considering the fact that the regular Turbo would have about 55WHP increase but this is understandable because Turbo S is already pushing almost at its limits.
I will definitely test it against the 458 again and post the results.
I tried to find out more tuning parts available but unfortunately, it's much different from the regular turbo so nothing is available. Only Champion and AWE have "custom" made parts that are available, they say. But I would rather wait for a non-custom parts (=common) unless anyone could supply them at a reasonable price.
I think this is a very fast car straight out from the factory. For the money, it's definitely worth it.
I will have this Turbo S tuned all the bolt-ons. 458, I will pretty much keep stock unless Capristo develops a nice peaky sound exhaust.
I will most likely sell the FX50 and buy two other cars. One Minivan (because of kids) and one really fast car. Here is the list of candidates.
(1) ZR1 with few bolt-on mods will make close to 800BHP.
(2) Gallardo or LP560 and Underground or Heffner Twin Turbo with 650WHP (93 octane)/ 850WHP (100 octane) setting.
(3) Same as (2) but with an Audi R8 V10.
(4) 997.1 Turbo and go all out. GIAC says it can safely push 850WHP with high modifications.
(5) 2012 GTR and tune it whatever tuning comes out. My friend's 2009 GTR is now pushing 830WHP with C16 so I don't think the same or higher numbers would be impossible with the 2012 model.
Any other candidates that you guys can think of?
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Gallardo with the Underground Racing turbos. Stay away from Heffner.
Generally I have found that Porsche underestimates their HP ratings. I have seen many examples at AWE-Tuning (including my own P cars). The S and 458 are a beautiful combination.
Generally I have found that Porsche underestimates their HP ratings. I have seen many examples at AWE-Tuning (including my own P cars). The S and 458 are a beautiful combination.
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Hey Jay, if it's ridiculous fast you're after, and that will mean getting all that horse power to the ground, I would say UGR Gallardo, or buy a 2012 GTR and send it to AMS or Switzer. The advantage of these 2 platforms is getting 1xxx hp to the ground. They have proven to be very capable platforms, and given that you have the Turbo S and the 458 already, you don't have many options that will "impress" you. Looking forward to seeing your car with the new tune.
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After many runs I had with various different cars, I've finally did the GIAC ECU tuned yesterday. The reason I wanted to keep stock for so long was because I wanted to see how fast it really is compared to other cars.
Against my 458, it's like this.
Obviously, dead-stop is a Turbo S WIN. But besides the dead-stop, all rolling starts was a 458 WIN. I actually conducted the test up to around 150. So, I kinda expected for the 458 to pull more at higher speeds.
So, finally 2 weeks ago, I tested my Turbo S and 458 from 60 to 190 MPH.
I did a couple testings. I was very surprised to see that the Turbo S was actually dead even at high speeds against the Turbo S.
So, it's like this.
458 pulls first. It pulls 1~2 cars... Then 3~4 cars... Then 4~5 cars... At this moment, it's around 150 MPH.
But guess what? it "STAYS" at 5 cars from 150~190!!!
I did the Dyno test at GIAC before and after the ECU flash.
I got 475WHP!!! And this dyno, they say, reads VERY VERY conservatively.
997.1 Turbos (480BHP) only reads 380WHP in this dyno, Garrett says.
Audi R8 V10 (525BHP) read 400WHP
997.2 Turbo (500BHP) only reads 410~420WHP.
And I got 475WHP!!! No wonder it could keep up with the 562 BHP 458 Italia even at high speeds!!!
Mathematically 475WHP at this dyno would translate to 600BHP at the crank, GIAC says. It might have less drivetrain loss but even with that it definitely isn't 530BHP that Porsche says...
Another Turbo S that they measured before my car got 475WHP at this dyno, as well, so mine isn't a stronger sample... It's pretty much consistent.
We had the ECU flash and dyno read 511WHP, a 36WHP increase. This isn't much increase considering the fact that the regular Turbo would have about 55WHP increase but this is understandable because Turbo S is already pushing almost at its limits.
I will definitely test it against the 458 again and post the results.
I tried to find out more tuning parts available but unfortunately, it's much different from the regular turbo so nothing is available. Only Champion and AWE have "custom" made parts that are available, they say. But I would rather wait for a non-custom parts (=common) unless anyone could supply them at a reasonable price.
I think this is a very fast car straight out from the factory. For the money, it's definitely worth it.
I will have this Turbo S tuned all the bolt-ons. 458, I will pretty much keep stock unless Capristo develops a nice peaky sound exhaust.
I will most likely sell the FX50 and buy two other cars. One Minivan (because of kids) and one really fast car. Here is the list of candidates.
(1) ZR1 with few bolt-on mods will make close to 800BHP.
(2) Gallardo or LP560 and Underground or Heffner Twin Turbo with 650WHP (93 octane)/ 850WHP (100 octane) setting.
(3) Same as (2) but with an Audi R8 V10.
(4) 997.1 Turbo and go all out. GIAC says it can safely push 850WHP with high modifications.
(5) 2012 GTR and tune it whatever tuning comes out. My friend's 2009 GTR is now pushing 830WHP with C16 so I don't think the same or higher numbers would be impossible with the 2012 model.
Any other candidates that you guys can think of?
Against my 458, it's like this.
Obviously, dead-stop is a Turbo S WIN. But besides the dead-stop, all rolling starts was a 458 WIN. I actually conducted the test up to around 150. So, I kinda expected for the 458 to pull more at higher speeds.
So, finally 2 weeks ago, I tested my Turbo S and 458 from 60 to 190 MPH.
I did a couple testings. I was very surprised to see that the Turbo S was actually dead even at high speeds against the Turbo S.
So, it's like this.
458 pulls first. It pulls 1~2 cars... Then 3~4 cars... Then 4~5 cars... At this moment, it's around 150 MPH.
But guess what? it "STAYS" at 5 cars from 150~190!!!
I did the Dyno test at GIAC before and after the ECU flash.
I got 475WHP!!! And this dyno, they say, reads VERY VERY conservatively.
997.1 Turbos (480BHP) only reads 380WHP in this dyno, Garrett says.
Audi R8 V10 (525BHP) read 400WHP
997.2 Turbo (500BHP) only reads 410~420WHP.
And I got 475WHP!!! No wonder it could keep up with the 562 BHP 458 Italia even at high speeds!!!
Mathematically 475WHP at this dyno would translate to 600BHP at the crank, GIAC says. It might have less drivetrain loss but even with that it definitely isn't 530BHP that Porsche says...
Another Turbo S that they measured before my car got 475WHP at this dyno, as well, so mine isn't a stronger sample... It's pretty much consistent.
We had the ECU flash and dyno read 511WHP, a 36WHP increase. This isn't much increase considering the fact that the regular Turbo would have about 55WHP increase but this is understandable because Turbo S is already pushing almost at its limits.
I will definitely test it against the 458 again and post the results.
I tried to find out more tuning parts available but unfortunately, it's much different from the regular turbo so nothing is available. Only Champion and AWE have "custom" made parts that are available, they say. But I would rather wait for a non-custom parts (=common) unless anyone could supply them at a reasonable price.
I think this is a very fast car straight out from the factory. For the money, it's definitely worth it.
I will have this Turbo S tuned all the bolt-ons. 458, I will pretty much keep stock unless Capristo develops a nice peaky sound exhaust.
I will most likely sell the FX50 and buy two other cars. One Minivan (because of kids) and one really fast car. Here is the list of candidates.
(1) ZR1 with few bolt-on mods will make close to 800BHP.
(2) Gallardo or LP560 and Underground or Heffner Twin Turbo with 650WHP (93 octane)/ 850WHP (100 octane) setting.
(3) Same as (2) but with an Audi R8 V10.
(4) 997.1 Turbo and go all out. GIAC says it can safely push 850WHP with high modifications.
(5) 2012 GTR and tune it whatever tuning comes out. My friend's 2009 GTR is now pushing 830WHP with C16 so I don't think the same or higher numbers would be impossible with the 2012 model.
Any other candidates that you guys can think of?
Another car that intrigues me is the Ford GT with TT. If you look up Dallas Performance the owner (Taylor) does magic.
Owe heck - I just remembered - I have a 2009 Tip Cab Black with Tan Int. with CMS 68mm VTG turbos for sale. Faster than a PDK on race gas. It's in brand new condition, cabriolet, ~850 BHP.
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Nice cars - Good Idea but I would not go with the ZR1. I just sold a 2011 ZR1 due to it's lack of power even after adding the Lingenfelter 750 kit + a smaller pulley (ie.800 HP Kit). I would go for a the Z07 or what is known as the Carbon Edition Z06 and add a D1SC, a blower cam, and some nice interior upgrades such as http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...onic-blue.html this link shows my ZR1 and my Z06 (not the carbon edition but frightenly fast with 876 WHP and 796 FT#).
Another car that intrigues me is the Ford GT with TT. If you look up Dallas Performance the owner does magic.
Another car that intrigues me is the Ford GT with TT. If you look up Dallas Performance the owner does magic.
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Neither can I. All the parts will be in next week and then the assembly begins.
BTW: My TIP is FS and I bought a black on black on black Turbo S Cab with Yellow stitching throughout. It will be my next project after I break it in.
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Thanks Jay that was very informative. I might be getting a Turbo S in the near future and after a few months will want to do an ecu tune and exhaust. Want to know why you picked GIAC, is it better then other tunes out there and why? Also which other tunes are available for the Turbo S.
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I got 475WHP!!! And this dyno, they say, reads VERY VERY conservatively.
997.1 Turbos (480BHP) only reads 380WHP in this dyno, Garrett says.
Audi R8 V10 (525BHP) read 400WHP
997.2 Turbo (500BHP) only reads 410~420WHP.
And I got 475WHP!!! No wonder it could keep up with the 562 BHP 458 Italia even at high speeds!!!
Mathematically 475WHP at this dyno would translate to 600BHP at the crank, GIAC says. It might have less drivetrain loss but even with that it definitely isn't 530BHP that Porsche says...
I tried to find out more tuning parts available but unfortunately, it's much different from the regular turbo so nothing is available. Only Champion and AWE have "custom" made parts that are available, they say. But I would rather wait for a non-custom parts (=common) unless anyone could supply them at a reasonable price.
We actually have a complete line of tuning products already available for the Turbo/Turbo S. We have had these available for quite some time actually. No "custom" parts....all completely tested and readily available, direct bolt-ons....and warrantied!
If there's anything in particular that you're looking for, please feel free to let me know and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
http://www.championmotorsport.com/pr...-997t-2-pk.htm
Also...I have something you might be interested in for your 458 as well.
http://www.championmotorsport.com/pr...8c09-603-a.htm
Hi JayTurbo...
We actually have a complete line of tuning products already available for the Turbo/Turbo S. We have had these available for quite some time actually. No "custom" parts....all completely tested and readily available, direct bolt-ons....and warrantied!
If there's anything in particular that you're looking for, please feel free to let me know and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
http://www.championmotorsport.com/pr...-997t-2-pk.htm
Also...I have something you might be interested in for your 458 as well.
http://www.championmotorsport.com/pr...8c09-603-a.htm
We actually have a complete line of tuning products already available for the Turbo/Turbo S. We have had these available for quite some time actually. No "custom" parts....all completely tested and readily available, direct bolt-ons....and warrantied!
If there's anything in particular that you're looking for, please feel free to let me know and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
http://www.championmotorsport.com/pr...-997t-2-pk.htm
Also...I have something you might be interested in for your 458 as well.
http://www.championmotorsport.com/pr...8c09-603-a.htm