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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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Also make sure you're not confusing 0-60 vs 0-62 (100kph).
 
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
It is a BIG factor. Look at every single car magazine in the world, and quotes are always first: 0-60 or 0-100

997TT.2 - everyone talks about how fast it is 0-60 in 2.8, or a Veyron, 0-60 in 2.5/2.6

When another car is faster than our own 997TT.1, you can choose to just ignore it and pretend it's no longer an important factor, but it is.....

Fact is, for 99% of "spirited" driving in North America, 0-60 is the performance benchmark as it is not realistic nor easy to do 60-130 or even 0-160 on any road, public or private.

If true, it's impressive what Porsche has done withe the 991S.
You may are not able to achieve high speeds in public road but this doesnt mean 0-160 is worthless
Veyron is 0.4 sec quicker that koenigsegg agera r in 0-60 but the second is 4 secs faster on 0-200. So which one you think is faster?Not to mention lap times...
0-60 may give you some indication but believe me, is practise may mean nothing
 
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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0-60mph tells you how good the drivetrain and traction is. 30-130mph tells you how fast the car is.
 
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
Guys, just read the new Motor Trend or Road and Track, can't remember which one, but they tested the new 991S with PDK/Launch Control:

0-60 in 3.5!?!?!?! How is that possible?

That's faster than a stock 6MT 997TT.1 (0-60 in 3.7)

With the mods on my 997TT, I am probably runnning about 550hp, and I don't know if I can even do 0-60 in 3.5, unless I shift perfectly.

I am indeed looking foward to seeing what the 991TT can do........
THat is the power of computers vs. "analog" approach. PDK/Launch control is key...
 
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
It is a BIG factor. Look at every single car magazine in the world, and quotes are always first: 0-60 or 0-62

997TT.2 - everyone talks about how fast it is 0-60 in 2.8, or a Veyron, 0-60 in 2.5/2.6

When another car is faster than our own 997TT.1, you can choose to just ignore it and pretend it's no longer an important factor, but it is.....

Here in North America, the most common performance benchmark that is achievable and testable is the 0-60 and is what most people use to test/judge their cars against others out on public roads. It's what 99% of all of us have done at some point at a red light....admit it or not.

It's not realistic nor easy to do 60-130 or even 0-160 on any road, public or private.

If true, it's impressive what Porsche has done withe the 991S, in that it performs as well (0-60) as the "top dog" 997 series Turbo (6MT)
Agreed!!
 
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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the magazine tests also usually use the "roll-out" in their calculations which starts the clock later. The initial test done by C&D or MT on the 997.1 TT had a 0-60 of 3.2s in cold temps.
 
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Originally Posted by thackl
3.7 is the porshe est time. A few auto rags did it 3.1 for the tip and 3.4 mt. I still don't understand the gearing...1st is really short and the shift eats up time. I bet a 2nd gear drop with a better clutch would yield low 3/high2 in a mt? All other cars with this kind of HP do over 60 in 1st.
That doesn't seem like a realistic comparison. What other 6 cylinder cars do 60 in 1st and are also members of the 200 mph club? The others you speak of have ten and twelve cylinders with different power outputs and completely different power to weight ratios.
There are plenty of cars at a fraction of the Porsche cost and design that can win in a straight line, but few designed this well all around with this kind of numbers.
 
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I hope it does do zero to 60 in the time suggested. Sounds like the 991S is a fantastic car and I'm sure those making the purchase are very excited.

Doesn't change how I feel about the turbo though. IMO the "turbo" is a special car that goes far beyond 0-60... where it may lag in some areas it more than compensates in others... it's the "turbo".
 
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I bet they come back and say it was a typo or it will be the only magazine with such lower numbers. Then they hope it will just die and go away.
 
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If you want a deadly 0-60mph car, get a SPI750 Tiptronic, 2.5 seconds.
 
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0-100kph or 60mph is rubbish for "small players"...

Real Power speaks after 100, even 200kph!...



 
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Porsche brochure I got in the mail today says 911S 0-60 manual 4.3 PDK 4.1. Regular 911 4.6 manual and 4.4 PDK.
 
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Originally Posted by K24F
0-100kph or 60mph is rubbish for "small players"...

Real Power speaks after 100, even 200kph!...



I had one race so far on a Highway with a modified impreza.
I passed him with 150 kmh when he tried to reach me. I was doing 180 to 250 for about 10 miles keeping a steady distance all the time. It was awesome, no 0-60 and **** like that, just torque...
 
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