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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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New 991S faster than a 997TT?!?!

Guys, just read the new Motor Trend or Road and Track, can't remember which one, but they tested the new 991S with PDK/Launch Control:

0-60 in 3.5!?!?!?! How is that possible?

That's faster than a stock 6MT 997TT.1 (0-60 in 3.7)

With the mods on my 997TT, I am probably runnning about 550hp, and I don't know if I can even do 0-60 in 3.5, unless I shift perfectly.

I am indeed looking foward to seeing what the 991TT can do........
 
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
Guys, just read the new Motor Trend or Road and Track, can't remember which one, but they tested the new 991S with PDK/Launch Control:

0-60 in 3.5!?!?!?! How is that possible?

That's faster than a stock 6MT 997TT.1 (0-60 in 3.7)

With the mods on my 997TT, I am probably runnning about 550hp, and I don't know if I can even do 0-60 in 3.5, unless I shift perfectly.

I am indeed looking foward to seeing what the 991TT can do........
It's not.
 
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In the Car & Driver I just got the 991S with PDK did 3.6sec 0-60, that's very impressive.
But for 0-60 times the new automatic transmissions are just better than us humans. I wouldn't worry about that if you are a stick shift guy and enjoy the mechanical feeling etc...

Although, it is fun to have this massive acceleration so easily with an auto box.
 
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Regardless of 0-60 time, the torque difference on the tt is huge. You'll have way more fun getting there!
 
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Like they said its all about launch control with a pdk, it will easily take .5sec off a 60mph time. I had a well modded .2S and it did 3.6sec to 60 with LC and a pdk. But it felt a lot slower just driving around town than my GT2 or my friends TT. The fastest time I have been able to get with my GT2 is 3.3, but with the new race clutch I think I can get sub 3. But it really does not matter, it feels so much faster.
 
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
Guys, just read the new Motor Trend or Road and Track, can't remember which one, but they tested the new 991S with PDK/Launch Control:

0-60 in 3.5!?!?!?! How is that possible?

That's faster than a stock 6MT 997TT.1 (0-60 in 3.7)

With the mods on my 997TT, I am probably runnning about 550hp, and I don't know if I can even do 0-60 in 3.5, unless I shift perfectly.

I am indeed looking foward to seeing what the 991TT can do........
3.7 is the porshe est time. A few auto rags did it 3.1 for the tip and 3.4 mt. I still don't understand the gearing...1st is really short and the shift eats up time. I bet a 2nd gear drop with a better clutch would yield low 3/high2 in a mt? All other cars with this kind of HP do over 60 in 1st.
 
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Imagine what's to come from the next TT if that's a taste of what Porsche are doing with the new generation.
 
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You need to compare like for like. What do you think a 997tt with a PDK would do 0-60? 3.1sec? The manual 991 S will still be over 4 sec.
 
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with PDK, SC Plus using Launch Control sure it's competitive with a 997 turbo with a stick to 60. First, LC is something I would use once maybe twice, otherwise I could care less. Roll on/In-gear runs are where it's at if you're running against someone. And, 0-60/62 is basically meaningless, imo. These rags use this data a their measuring stick. A run to 100 and beyond is really indicative of a car's power. Skip PDK and see where a 991S is over 100. Of course that may be difficult as its silhouette may be out of the turbo's rear view mirror's range. Even against a PDK equipped 991S (which has a MSRP also competitive with the 997 turbo) the turbo will WALK away with ease. The .2 gt3 does the same and had a MSRP even less than a properly equipped PDK 991S.

Not trying to knock the 991 but facts are facts and many are some enamored by the PDK/SC Plus 991 S performance w/LC.
 

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Originally Posted by thackl
3.7 is the porshe est time. A few auto rags did it 3.1 for the tip and 3.4 mt. I still don't understand the gearing...1st is really short and the shift eats up time. I bet a 2nd gear drop with a better clutch would yield low 3/high2 in a mt? All other cars with this kind of HP do over 60 in 1st.
3.9 is Porsche's est. time w/SC Plus.
 
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
I am indeed looking foward to seeing what the 991TT can do........
It cannot differ much from the actual turbo because all point out that will have the same engine and drivetrain of the 997.2TTS.
 
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Originally Posted by NWturbo
Guys, just read the new Motor Trend or Road and Track, can't remember which one, but they tested the new 991S with PDK/Launch Control:

0-60 in 3.5!?!?!?! How is that possible?

That's faster than a stock 6MT 997TT.1 (0-60 in 3.7)

With the mods on my 997TT, I am probably runnning about 550hp, and I don't know if I can even do 0-60 in 3.5, unless I shift perfectly.

I am indeed looking foward to seeing what the 991TT can do........
Even if this is correct, since when the 0-60 is the major factor for deciding which car is faster?
Take a look at 0-160, top speed etc and get back
 
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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This months Christophorus list the 991S with PDK 0-62 at 4.3.
 
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3.6 to the 100? maybe there was a steep downhill and a very strong tailwind involved, along with a tank of race gas and a very skinny driver. For this car to lay down consistent times like that it will need to lose some more weight. If Porsche quote 4.3 then i'd be inclined to take their word on that...give or take a couple of tenths at most.
 

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It is a BIG factor. Look at every single car magazine in the world, and quotes are always first: 0-60 or 0-62

997TT.2 - everyone talks about how fast it is 0-60 in 2.8, or a Veyron, 0-60 in 2.5/2.6

When another car is faster than our own 997TT.1, you can choose to just ignore it and pretend it's no longer an important factor, but it is.....

Here in North America, the most common performance benchmark that is achievable and testable is the 0-60 and is what most people use to test/judge their cars against others out on public roads. It's what 99% of all of us have done at some point at a red light....admit it or not.

It's not realistic nor easy to do 60-130 or even 0-160 on any road, public or private.

If true, it's impressive what Porsche has done withe the 991S, in that it performs as well (0-60) as the "top dog" 997 series Turbo (6MT)

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Even if this is correct, since when the 0-60 is the major factor for deciding which car is faster?
Take a look at 0-160, top speed etc and get back
 

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