Just bought a 2012 Turbo S and I owned a 01 turbo with a few mods...night and day. The new turbo S is just too incredible. The power aside, the car has everything one would want in a daily driver...and nearly the speed of a bugatti veyron! Whats better???

 

Of course you would say that, you are biased! .

Nearly the speed of Veyron? KHM!

0-300km/h

Turbo S = 34 seconds.

Veyron in 18.

 

According to several car mags, it is when it comes to 0 to 60. I believe they have the S at 2.6 and the V at 2.4.

 

0-60? Meaningless performance data. I think by now we all agree about that. And after 60? Veyrons afterburners ignite... and toast the s. Comparing 997 ts to veyron acceleration wise is ridiculous.

 

997 TT S runs a 10.7 1/4 mi at 129 mph. Not veyron fast.. But really fast. My old 996TT with chip and exhaust would do a 11.8 1/4 according to posted times of similar prepared cars. What hp 996 TT would it take to equal the new TT S? 800 crank hp?pdk with launch control goes a long way. I have spent a good bit of time in a pdk 997TT.. The acceleration and handling are far superior to the 996TT, but if u like modding your car a lot, want manual tranny, like a more raw feeling, and dont want to drop $140k + on a used 997 TTS, 996Tt is a great car

 

And you'll be going from 0-300 where in London? 0-60 seems pretty meaningful when you put reality into perspective.

 

0-60 meaningless performance data and we all agree and ridiculous to compare TTS acceleration to Veyron ??? It's important to me and everyone I know. It also appears to be important to car manufacturers, writers/editors and readers of car magazines and many car enthusiasts. It may not be the only or most important measure of performance, but it is and always will be a measure of performance, just as 0-100, 1/4 mile, torque, hp, top speed, skidpad G, braking, rolling acceleration, handling, hp to weight ratio are measures of performance. Comparing the 0-60 time of a $170K car with one that costs nearly 10X's more, especially when the difference is only 2 tenths of a second, is clearly not ridiculous, just as comparing their top speed, 1/4 mi etc. isn't ridiculous. I'll always consider 0-60 and all the other measurements of performance along with cost, reliability and looks when comparing cars.

 

Oh no that put me straight... 0-60 is meaningless. Period. Traction issues and gearing differences are at play and it is therefore a crap way of measuring car's true performance. I didn't bring veyron into the equation. Read the whole thread before stating your ill-informed believes. Porsche now puts 0-160km/h and 0-200km/h as they consider this to be true performance measurement allowing for traction and gearing differences.

 

I just think its cool that my sub 200k turbo S with about 10k of loving isnt left in the dust by one of the fastest cars in the world that costs 1-2.6 million even after an interestingly long distance. And meanwhile, people "just" see me in "a porsche." I like that...haha.

 

^^this is true^^

 

Why the hate? Dudes are excited the TTS keeps up at all. No one says it's the superior car.

 

The truth is sometimes SO damned funny!

I totally agree, I want to enjoy the synergy of ME DRIVING my car, not MY CAR driving me. But for the video game generation, I totally see the appeal of the electronics. And notwithstanding the above comments about involvement in driving, I'm still diggin on the 458 and 12C........

 

^^^thats what racecars are for

 

A real V 12 .... not from the Veyron but ...close

http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/

 

I'm confused with where you guys keep coming up with this 'double the price' thing for a 997 turbo s. 996 turbos with the x50 or S seem to be trading in roughly the high 40s, low to mid 50s range, low 60s on the high side for the latest year S's I would think.

My local dealer has 2 brand new 997 turbo S's. The sticker on the one that I drool over (because it was spec'ed literally exactly how I would have spec'ed it from the factory) is $170k. This other one they have is $160k and change. The cheapest one I'm seeing on the car sites is around $140k with 10k miles. They all seem to be in the $150k range for lightly used cars.

So the 997 turbo S is actually 3 times the price of the 996 currently. Is it 3 times the car? I think that's tough to say. I daily my 996ttx50 but after the last couple of years of heavy commuting with stick shift cars, and a bunch of miles, I wanted to get into something with a little bit newer comfort features and paddles. I wanted legit paddles though... not some weak benz tranny (great for benz and what you look to get from one, but not for me). I was in the $100K realm when I was looking to order something so being the turbo s was $170k, I ordered something else.

If you guys know where to pick up 997tts's for $100K, please help a brotha out! haha