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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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How did you race him?at what speed?
 
Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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here is a sneak peak pic of my car (ES850R) , we will give full details and more pics with emre later this week. enjoy..

ps: the car on the video is a different car with exactly the same set up as mine.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 03:50 AM
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How did you race him?at what speed?
Customer told me that the race was from 0km/h.

Both 997 and bike had traction issue since the race was on a highway without ideal road conditions.

Anyway, i think that 997tt performed well.
 
Old Oct 13, 2012 | 05:14 AM
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Ofcourse not.

I meant Porsche has stock engine with bolt on parts.

Its tiptronic and engine has about 850hp at the crank.

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All clear. In this case I stand corrected. Misunderstood. I was just about to write that you need 800bhp + to out accelerate s1000rr. Great win.
 
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Hi guys, the car in the video is mine and yes i raced the bike from a stop. Both of us did not get ideal starts - I did not brake boost, i just floored the pedal and also hit rev limiter in first gear. The bike should have been ahead but I guess he got a bad start too and i pulled ahead by a car in 2nd gear. After that he was catching me until he was almost beside me. By then we were at 200kmh and then I realised he wasn't passing my car. A few moments later we were at 250 kmh and that was when I started walking away from him till 300+kmh.

The bike is scary fast from 0-200kmh and given ideal conditions, I doubt i would have a chance. But having said that, the Porsche is fast enough to make it a drivers or riders race, and that in itself is a testimony to how quick this setup is.

All credit though must be given to Emre who not only solved my problems when I was running on a TTP modified GT2 turbo kit last year, but since then has always delivered exactly what he promised. And by this I'm referring to GPS verified acceleration times and real world results, not dyno figures or "supposed" results that would have been achieved on a drag strip in another country, under ideal conditions ...

If not for him, i would probably be back in a GTR by now ... and spending loads more money! Man, I can't imagine what the 4.1l setup must feel like. The words "daily driven 8 second car" are not supposed to go together in the same sentence ...
 

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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ArSe77aL
Hi guys, the car in the video is mine and yes i raced the bike from a stop. Both of us did not get ideal starts - I did not brake boost, i just floored the pedal and also hit rev limiter in first gear. The bike should have been ahead but I guess he got a bad start too and i pulled ahead by a car in 2nd gear. After that he was catching me until he was almost beside me. By then we were at 200kmh and then I realised he wasn't passing my car. A few moments later we were at 250 kmh and that was when I started walking away from him till 300+kmh.

The bike is scary fast from 0-200kmh and given ideal conditions, I doubt i would have a chance. But having said that, the Porsche is fast enough to make it a drivers or riders race, and that in itself is a testimony to how quick this setup is.

All credit though must be given to Emre who not only solved my problems when I was running on a TTP modified GT2 turbo kit last year, but since then has always delivered exactly what he promised. And by this I'm referring to GPS verified acceleration times and real world results, not dyno figures or "supposed" results that would have been achieved on a drag strip in another country, under ideal conditions ...

If not for him, i would probably be back in a GTR by now ... and spending loads more money! Man, I can't imagine what the 4.1l setup must feel like. The words "daily driven 8 second car" are not supposed to go together in the same sentence ...
All litre super-sports bikes are really fast to 200km/h. In-between s1000rr, Honda CBR, Suzuki GSXR or my “old” Aprilia RSV Mille Factory (twin) they are all within 1 second. S1000rr is the quickest 6.9 secs versus 7.9 secs for my Aprilia for an example.

However, once above 220/230km/h bikes become aerodynamic bricks. And speedo begins moving slower and at 270km/h it moves really, really slowly. Porsche aero factor (drag) is cd 0.33 whilst best bike’s aerodynamic drag factor (Hayabusa) is cd 0.56.

Because I have both the Porsche and the bike I know this all too well; I don’t play with bikes from a dig. But once a litre bike wants to race me from 200km/h +, all bets are off.

S1000R accelerates to 200km/h in 6.9 secs, to 250 km/h in 10 secs and then needs a whopping 9 secs to get to 300km/h. This illustrates this point rather well.

Great win! Bike driver was probably a bit miffed.
 
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Awesome; im really curious what this set up involves. I know you guys seem to love and know Tiptronic porsches more than anyone. Any upgrades of the fuel system and fuel type?
 
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Impressive, I use to race that bike. If you're keeping up with it, let alone beating it, you've got insane acceleration.
 
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Very cool, well done! Anything can happen with the BS stops and the flag drops. Impressive car to say the least, you must be very happy!
 
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The video shows nothing. The car may be very fast, for sure. Are there any proven specs on this car (0-300 kph), etc. How many stock motor 997TT's (with any form of bolt ons) have beaten the RR's time of 19.1. Russians are crazy standing/parked along the side waiting for them to go by at that speed. What is highest current trap speed of 997TT with bolt ons ?
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
The video shows nothing. The car may be very fast, for sure. Are there any proven specs on this car (0-300 kph), etc. How many stock motor 997TT's (with any form of bolt ons) have beaten the RR's time of 19.1. Russians are crazy standing/parked along the side waiting for them to go by at that speed. What is highest current trap speed of 997TT with bolt ons ?
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Yes the video does not reveal much and only shows what was seen at the finish. For an account of what happened during the race please refer to my post above. I have not made a timed 0-300kmh attempt, but GPS measured timings from an earlier test run indicate that it would be very close to 19sec.
 

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0-300 kph

That is very fast indeed. We will look forward to some of your data.
Good stuff !
 
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