Turbo S only available in PDK, PCCB is also a standard feature and you can opt for CL or the traditional 5 lugs.

 

thank you...i was almost sure pccbs are standard but wanted to be 100% sure...

 

I would not put bilsteins on the car for any amount of money. Ride like crap, if anything a gt2 sway and some factory gt3 suspension bits.

 

^^^Bilstein has been used by many people on this forum. While everyone has an opinion and every region's road condition varies, to say it "rides like crap" is indeed an opinion that's extremely rarely shared. There is something wrong with the installation or the car if this is the case. If your car had multiple other heim joints links on board (dog bones, etc.) that would alter the evaluation also.

GT2 sway bar is designed for a 200-300 lb lighter car with different weight distribution, different suspension spring/setup, and rear wheel drive. I am not sure whether it's appropriate for the Turbo. If you are going to recommend a sway bar, I would think a proper one that is designed for the Turbo is the best recommendation. Other issues with your approach, using stiff bar with soft springs, and adding stiff rear bar while leaving front bar alone, are not necessarily good ideas either because of the obvious imbalance.

*If* the OP wants to improve the suspension, IMHO the proper first step is stiffer lowering springs, or stiffer coilover. Adding GT2 sway bar and GT3 links as first steps are somewhat backward approach that I doubt any tuner would recommend.

 

What, are you on the payroll for bilstein?
Their kit is subpar and not fit for my car, or any car that sees the track imo. If you just **** around on the street then I guess it doesn't really matter.
Just for the record, there was nothing wrong with my installation (Farnbacher-Loles), the best racing shop in the country at the time did the work. Not some tuner putting 22s on escalades.
My lap times only got better when I went back to springs. But, even with springs, the dd ride will suffer.
If you want a street able car, that handles great on the track, consider the gt2 bar and gt3 LCAs to gain negative camber. If you've ever looked at a gt2 bar, you'd know it is an exact swap on a tt, it's slightly stiffer and adjustable, that's the only difference. I've had an adjustable front bar, and I either ran them in the middle or full soft and rarely adjusted these at the track, hence my rec against.
This was the exact setup that another major racing shop recommended. Yes, with the stock springs n shocks.
Seriously, I would find a good shop and take their rec, learn how to adjust it, take free advice on line for what it is.....free. Porsche spent millions designing the 997tt, stock w street tires it ran a 7,38 ring, that's faster than just about any gt3 except the 4.0. The fact is, you don't really have to do anything to the car. Modding is fun, but not critical, more like personolization.IMO.
Of course, my comments apply to the 997.1tt.
I've tracked a bone stock 997.2 tts, trust me the car will run with a gt3 cup, it needs zero. Stock ring time 7.31, street tires. The TTS is a whole different animal.
Can and I wil just have to agree to disagree.

 

1. I continue to question the wisdom of recommending GT2 rear bar and GT3 links on stock springs of a Turbo (to me it is a potpourri of suspension tuning). Whoever this "major racing shop" is, I would fire them immediately. Kidding, they are entitled to their opinion, but this being a discussion forum... If you want to improve handling at the track, changing sway bar only is somewhat of a "sissy" move and am very surprised they would approach it this way. I know this from first hand experience.

2. Porsche spent millions designing the 997tt, to be a comfortable daily driver. It's a great car as is, no one is questioning this. But to argue that the handling cannot be improved by using stiffer springs or being lowered is to fight the law of physics.

3. When comparing Nurburgring times, it is best to ignore all factory test times because of the shenanegans they pull. The proper way is to compare third party test by same drivers, which have shown that a Turbo has NEVER tested faster than a GT3 at the track. 997.1 Turbo third party test is 7:54 by Sport Auto, same driver test GT3 in 7:40's range. This was widely known at the time of Turbo release.

 

Clearly, you've never been to the track. Sometimes with different tracks and tires, adjusting the rear sway is helpful. You wouldn't know.
You really can be a ***** if somebody disagrees with you, Can.
wtf is your problem?

 

Please calm down, don't make me report you to the mod. This is no place for such profanity.

Kidding Chris, but... if you post opinion on a discussion forum please expect the idea to be questioned and discussed. Especially when it is so outlandish.

 

Well, he's a surgeon, and on top of that, a highly opinionated one, what do you expect?

TT Surgeon, can I adjust your light for you, sir?

 

No, the lights just fine.......
There's more than one way to skin a cat as far as suspensions go.

 

+1
OEM GT3 parts are good upgrades. You can also look at the RSS tarmac series as well.

 

All kidding aside, I agree that the TT-S is a very capable all-purpose car right out of the box. The suspension changes they made between the .1 and .2 TT are quite dramatic.

 

Some some additional things to chew on.

1. The GT2 rear sway was approved by Porsche to be used on the GT3 in a TSB. Even on its softest setting, the GT2 rear bar is stiffer than the 997.1 GT3's rear sway set on its stiffest setting.

2. Considering that the 997TT has a non adjustable rear sway and has inherent understeer, but rear torque bias under full throttle, the GT2 rear sway should be a big improvement over the 997TT rear sway. And when given the choice between the GT3 bar and GT2 bar, my 997TT was set up with the GT2 with the original drop links from the 997TT.

With regards to Chris's thoughts on Bilstein, I agree in many ways - I'm a little disappointed that their front drop links were designed so poorly - they pop out so easily. And yet they refused to admit there was a problem. Even when I called and told them who set up my car - they said the links were probably improperly installed.

It took them forever to finally change their drop link design...by then I had put Tarrets on.

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Agree, my 2011tts, bone stock on street tires would go through my modded 2007tt like a spaghetti dinner. Not even close, it ran cup car times at wgi, unreal.

 

Ok I'm going to ask advice I'm thinking fabspeed or europipe ? Which u think ?