With regards to the EVO video article pitching the 991 GT3 versus the MP4-12C, the lap times were

1:02.7 151.7mph in the straights for the 12C

1:02.6 144.6mph in the straights for the 991 GT3.

"Okay it's probably running stickier tires, it has the Sport Maxx race tires, whatever they are called. It's 140 hp down...but in terms of turning, braking and traction, it murders the 12C."

I'd make the counter argument to Jethro Bovingdon's comment and say that Dunlop Sport Maxx tires are better suited for lap times than standard Pirelli PZeros.

 

Thank you.

Thank you, I appreciate your comments, knowing the thought that you put into your car purchases as well.

So far, I have had nothing but smiles driving it!

Very little is out there about self servicing the 12C - no info on oil changes, etc. I will have to do research. But service runs about $500-1500 per year depending on what needs to be done.

I'm sure I'll be doing DIYs given some time.

 

Porsche has been know to use "ringers" in their comparison testing.

 

Here's an interesting comparison from autocar.
I guess they're going through budget cuts - that "runway" is laughable :P
No launch control either...

 

Yea that was a SOFT launch for both cars....

 

Bob

Here you go Merry Christmas

 

Hello Leo - I watched the video last week - thanks for posting it. I need to go on a factory tour!

 

Watch it again and again!!!

I saw a video like this about Lamborghini and every time i watched it, i learn something new lol

 

Bob,

Congrats on the new ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this your ex??

http://www.chicagomotorcars.com/web/...inois/1400536/

Jim

 

Bob, you need these when you go on that tour

 

I wrote two articles on the 12C.

First was the flaw that it didn't have an LSD.

The second was a comparison from an owner of a 458 and a 12C (Tony Gaples, World Challenge racer), and he defintely preferred the 458. The lack of LSD was one of the issues.

If you Google San Jose Cars Examiner, you'll find them.

I would be curious to learn your opinon. I currently don't have the time to catch up on the 6 pages, my apologies.

Regardless, an impressive car and I believe Motor Trend with Randy Pobst ran quicker than a 458 at MRLS.

 

I really don't want to make this thread a 458 v 12C thread. There have been plenty of those, and most people who comment on those types of threads haven't spent enough time in either car.

That being said, I believe I have read both your articles and found them informative. Your point about the lack of LSD is noted, but personally, I have not found myself in a situation where I'm thinking "I wish this car had an LSD" either on or off the track.

Thus far, I have seen a few issues with the 12C that are part of the growing pains of developing a high performance vehicle for mass production from a company that has not done it before. But in general, I am very happy with the daily driving performance of this car. It is very balanced for daily duty and track work.

 

Thank you.

Regarding the lack of the LSD have you encountered this:
With my '06 SRT-8 before an LSD was standard ('09 iirc), uneven surfaces such as pulling out of a driveway onto a street, would cause one wheel to slip and without the LSD, the Traction Control would engage. Therefore owners would drive with the TC partially off.

Accelerating with (slightly) compromised road surface grip. If "out of the groove" at the dragstrip, or an area that was more damp on one side vs. the other, one tire would give up grip and spin (and increase spinning with throttle application) while the other tire didn't receive the torque transfer.

Have you noticed anything like that? Very curious. Thank you in advance.

 

Its been almost a year since your first post and its time for an update on the Mclaren. Love to hear the Pro's and Con's of the car. Do you miss the GT2 and how is the seat comfort on long trips? Are they as good as the Porsche's?

 

And this question as well, thank you.