We put together a short video highlighting the features and benefits of our Alpha 997.1TT Intercooler Kit. Moscow Unlim regular Sergey Ignatko recently installed this kit along with some additional modifications on his beautiful 997.1TT and ran quicker and faster than any other Porsche in the events history, 23.6 @ 230mph!

Additional info and ordering options here:http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/a...ooler-kit.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HrpN...ature=youtu.be

 

I must say that is a very good marketing video and put together very well.

Have you thought of getting involved in this to show how your cores would compare to others?

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...oler-test.html

 

Does this include turbo inlet pipes as well? The video shows them but I wasn't clear if they were included in the kit.

 

Any specifics available, i.e., core supplier, core type, pressure drop, flow rates, temp. in, temp. out. Also see in your photos you are using the Fabspeed cold air intake, which you have previously condemned. Perhaps this one is an improved design ? Thanks in advance for your reply.

 

Thank you for the offer, We would be happy to sell you one at a special rate but we cannot send one to you free of charge. Please take no disrespect from this but we have been doing this for nearly 15 years now and we have learned how to make some of the best intercoolers on the market. Sergey's (megion) car is a testament to how well our intercoolers work in real world scenarios. His car has never been faster and our IC's are one of the reasons for his recent success.



The cores are hand made for us to our exact dimensions. Each row laid individually by hand. Unlike other IC suppliers we are not limited to certain sizing as we spec out each core exactly how we want it. Our core manufacturer is quite simply the best in the business and it took us a LONG time to find the right one. I simply cant release that information as it would quite literally be handing over years of research to our competitors.

I might have the data you are looking for in our engineering files but I will have to dig for it.

I don't see the fabspeed cold air intake in the video...can you tell me where you are seeing that/ ie what min mark? We did have a car come in not that long ago with that airbox and he opted to keep it on as he no longer had the factory until available to him. There could be a snippet of footage of his car in the video. However all the component shots you are seeing are AMS / ALPHA products.

Eric

 

Eric, can you -or Sergei- provide a datalog of that run showing IAT curve?

 

IRL a full throttle pull from 0 to 300+ km/h will show the deltaT (start of run vs end of run vs OAT) and also how fast IAT rises and how/where it is stabilized.
Although it's not a scientific fact it'll show a lot.

 

No disrespect to you or your 15 years of knowledge or to Sergey's fast car but a fast car has nothing to do with how efficient your cores are compared to other cores or am I wrong?

I tell you what you send me just 1 core I'll pay for the core as long as the price is reasonable you pay for the test and then once the test is done ill send you the core back and you then reimburse me. How's that for a deal?

This is an independent test and it would be great for "US" the forum members to see what we are paying for!

 

This is why I set up this test to put this subject to bed once and for all.

But 99% of tuners don't seem to have the same faith in their products the way they seem to market them.

Another thing I will say is why should I pay as it just shows they are trying to get out of the test lol

 

Based on your other posts in your thread it seems you are more interested in trying to discredit cores rather than to prove that they work. Are you testing each intercooler kit under the same conditions, same day, same car etc? Unless you are putting these cars in a wind tunnel in closed conditions (like tony from EPL suggested) your testing is only a small piece of the puzzle. Its not just the core doing the work but the sum of all the parts. You cant just test the core...that's flawed testing before it even starts. To be blunt we have faith in our product, we don't have faith in your testing. I think you will find that is what is going to keep those companies not participating from sending you their products.

Sergey's car was running one of the supposed "best cores on the market" and just by switching to ours he saw a dramatic improvement in performance. Tony from EPL has been very open on how well he thinks our intercooler kit is performing. Tony has always been a no-nonsense no BS type of person. He would tell us if we are leaving anything on the table.

This isnt our first rodeo. In order to build 1800whp street cars you have to know how to keep things cool. Sergeys car is just a small example of that. we have been building fast cars for over a decade ALL while using our intercooler program: http://www.amsperformance.com/why-ams/accomplishments You can't do what we have done without knowing how to build a proper intercooler.

I mean no disrespect and I am not trying to come off as arrogant but our team of engineers knows what they are doing and have proven that over and over every day. We trust them above all. We like to think our histroy, proven results and track record are enough to show our customers and future customers that when they buy from AMS they are getting some of the best products on the market.

I wish you the best of luck on your testing and I hope you learn a lot from it. I also thank you for offering to include us, we simply have to respectfully decline.

Eric

 

As always EVERYTHING AMS brings to the market is well thought out and tested.. The fit and finish always goes along with the performance as well. The AMS intercoolers have been proven platform after platform. I dont think its required to run a field test on a stack of intercoolers to show whats best.. I dont think personally ANYONE doing the testing can keep all of the variables the same anyway.. This kit has been proven on Sergeys car and its enough for me..

I will be installing the intercoolers on a 997 GT2 in the next week or so.. Ill do a writeup when we are done..

 

If less Scientific debate and testing was done and more real world testing on cars at the track, this platform wouldnt be as far behind as it is..

 

Guys, i think it's no need to explain how IAT affect on ignition angle and it's correction?
Before my IAT was more than 80c after 200kph so car was loosing huge amount of power at 1 mile run, now my IAT is 76C maximum that i saw at 370kph. For me everything is clear like shining day, new IC works, not they alone to be honestly, but they are much better than i had before. Also they have better flow and temp drops after run. For example, when i release throttle, after 20-30 sec of slowing down, temp drops to 30C.

We ll see next season how they perform with 1400whp

 

First of all Eric when have I ever discredited other peoples cores? I have only ever stated facts not fiction! So I do not take those words very kindly!

Secondly if you bothered to read my thread correctly the test will be done in the same conditions, same wind tunnel and repeated the same way for every core that enters. The good thing about this test is it does not matter what day it is as the company can replicate the test over and over again as many times as they want to. This is an Independant test done by a company who do work for rally teams, F1 teams etc etc.

Do you think F1 teams and Rally teams just stick cores or radiators on their cars and hope for the best or do you think they test them this way before they start using their products?

Its great you have faith in your products and a lot of people do and you also have some lovely fast cars too I take my hat off to you but do not come on here putting false words on here and also trying to hide behind your fast times as I repeat this has nothing to do with core efficiency does it? It does not mean the cores are bad either but this is not the data we are looking for!

I do not disagree with real world results but like you have stated and also Tony from EPL that these real world results won't give you the full story on the cooler as each climate is different each car is tuned differently and so on.

So in my logical mind this wind tunnel test would be an apple to apple comparison and not apples to oranges which seems to be going on quite a lot on here!

You know something else Eric my intention was to help everyone wether it be forum members or tuning houses with valid and useful information but some of the tuners on here seem to have the same ideology which is my car is the fastest so my coolers is the best which just doesn't add up to me.

I wish you every success in getting the fastest QRT or highest top speed, not that you need it and apologise if my blunt straight to the point comments offended you or others.

I rest my case.

 

No apologies are necessary Nick. my remarks about you discrediting came in your own thread where you made it seem that our product was made to look fancy but you were not sure if it really worked. We took a little offense to that ourselves:


I am sorry you view our decision to not enter your test as a lack of faith in our product. That is not the case. We simply don't feel its necessary and I am sure you can respect our decision. If you chose to buy our cores and enter them in this test then of course that is well within your right.

We really do wish you the best of luck on your test and hope you do learn a great deal from it. Thank you again for considering us.

Eric