Thanks for the suggestions. To confirm I am not looking for extra performance - if that comes as a side effect then all the better. What I am looking for is much better sound - however with zero drone.

What I wasn't sure is how much of an impact an aftermarket exhaust had on the 997.2TT.

I have searched the exhaust threads - but none seem to address the underlying question I was looking to have answered - which is how much of an impact it makes to the driver.

 

If your referencing what it makes us feel like, then I can tell u it makes me want to drive it more and even a friend of mine that has the same year and cabriolet also says his love for the car was recharged after he got a Kline on his too I smile everyday when I hear mine

 

I have the NHP catless exhaust...sounds great and zero drone. Similar to europipe in sound...need to upload an exhaust video in the next couple of days. For a budget exhaust, I'm impressed. It cost a shade over $2k shipped.

 

I added an EP1 couple weeks back. Absolutely love it.

There is a thread going.

 

Most of you guys responding have .1s. The same exhausts on .2s are MUCH quieter. I would have expected it to be the same on .1 and .2, but it's not. I have experience. OP is asking about .2.

OP, if you only care about sound quality (the type of sound) then you can probably go with any of the brands mentioned by others. If you care about sound volume (need it louder), then having gone through the exercise with multiple brands you won't get the same volume as the .1s unless you go muffler bypass and/or cat bypass. And as 90sundevil and I stated (both of us have .2s), the Sharkwerks is a good choice for muffler bypass (no drone).

 

I'll be the one to play devil's advocate I read your original post a few times and I sense some concern whether you really think the TT is going to do "it" for you. If that is the case, changing the exhaust will be a short term solution I suspect.

That's why I suggested the Maser - has rear seats, sound/feel in spades and beautiful. No, it won't have the outright pace of the turbo but you said yourself, how much do you really need on the street? Particularly if you live in a highly populated area.

Is there any way you can use the money for the turbo and buy a DD and a fun car for the weekends?

Not trying to talk you out of anything, just my own interpretation of what I read in your post. It's a big expense.

 

FYI, the OP is referring to a 997.2 Turbo S.

Our 997.2 Turbo S sport exhaust is nearly as quiet while cruising as the stock exhaust but it sounds louder at full throttle than any of our other Turbo sport exhausts.
It comes with 100 cell sport cats, the maximum backpressure is down to 0.15 Bar/2.2 psi, it weighs the same as the stock unit and you'll feel the extra torque and hp at low rpm and midrange as well as the sharper throttle response. There is no gain at the top though as the ecu is load based so at the upper rpm range the output is limited and remains the same as stock. That phenomenon is valid on all 997. Turbo / S sport exhausts.
Our exhaust is a bolt-on upgrade, nothing on the car has to be altered. The warranty is 4 years on everything and you can read many customers' reviews on our website.

FVD builts great exhausts indeed and I have used many FVD parts on my own cars over the years as well. Nick I'm sure you prefer an FVD exhaust system as your shop Epic Tuning is an official FVD agent in the UK. However, if you want to promote the FVD 997.2 Turbo S exhaust then come up with some technical data and explain why it is better than other exhausts and why it does a better job from a performance point of view instead of knocking down a competitor for no rhyme or reason.

Thanks

 

First of all lets get 1 thing straight.

This venture you speak of with FVD has nothing to with what I have said and it was something in the pipeline as an idea to take my tuning passion/hobby to the next stage, which a lot of us dream about.

But what I have learnt is the tuning industry is a very fickle industry to be in and around and you have proved that point!

I have not put your product down, I even compared it to a Rolex, all I did was merely state my personal preference which I am entitled to do so.

So why if we as a customer who want to gain performance in HP, sound and weight reduction, would some of us want to go with an EP when there are so many beautiful exhaust systems out on the market other than yours or even FVD's?

Yes your system works as a bolt on but in my eyes and many other peoples you could bolt on a system and a remap for similar money.

I rate FVD yes as I have experience with their products and customer service which is why I gave it a thought to venture into this industry.

I also have experience with you and in my experience not the greatest as you seem to have a very strange attitude towards me and continue to bring it up.

So please refrain from continuing this on the OP's thread and if you have any issues then feel free to PM me sir.


Merry Christmas.

To the OP apologies and forum apologies for this going off topic.

Now the facts, will a gen 2 turbo S system sound very visceral not to sure as everyone has a different taste in sound and the gen 2's as people have stated even with certain AM exhausts have not made much of a difference. So maybe you need to re-think is the car itself right for you?

Here are some rad facts about the FVD system I was talking about.


FACTS:
- + 25 crank hp & + 19 crank torque (with FVD software)**
- 200 Cell high flow, tri metal german HJS sport catalysts
- 2 3/4" tubing (70mm) straight through design for max. power
- Weighs 51 lbs. (23,0 Kg)
- T 316 stainless steel for improved durability over T 304
- Cone style catalytic connection design to prevent exhaust leaks
- Includes quick release clamps
- Made in Germany
- Modular design for 100 cell, 200 cell or bypass use
- No DME programming necessary.

 

Really?

I'm not sure what a put-down is in your world...but this sure sounds like one...

Many of us have done plenty of research and EP1 is indeed a performance and audio upgrade to the OEM exhaust.

RD

 

Exactly and you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. (Its funny that you cut out the line that followed that comment to suit your thoughts.)

Is there a problem with that?

And yes why choose EP in my experience it's not the ultimate performance system and sounds very tame but remember IMO.

You are obviously taking it personally as you own one and want to make sure in your mind you have backed up the purchase you made for your peace of mind!

 

The answer is no. The trend these days is to make every generation softer, thats what most consumers want.

If you need back seats, its a tough decision.....I would suggest you at least look at a 993 Turbo.

 

Yes this a good choice they are much more raw or even a 997.1 as they are much more raw and louder than a gen2 with an exhaust system.

I would love to own a 993turbo and when I had the chance I should have jumped on it. They are Pure, Hardcore and Simple.

 

Disclaimer: I'm not taking any sides here.

BUT as a board member trying to be helpful to the OP, I want to again point out that for the folks coming in and providing feedback from their experience with exhausts and their 997.1 turbos, it's different on the 997.2!

Different engines, different performance, and very different sound on the 997.2 even from the same manufacturers! I learned this the hard way. Although I think everyone's opinion is valuable, I would caution comparing 997.1 experiences to 997.2.

 

I was going to suggest a 993 turbo as well.

 

Respectfully Nick, if you do have a relationship with FVD beyond being a regular customer, you should probably disclose it. By choosing FVD over Europipe in your setup, you are in fact promoting one brand over the other, and it would be only fair that members know if you have a relationship with one company or the other.

I agree that you are welcome to your opinion about both systems. However, members should know if there are circumstances and experiences that lead to the opinion.