never in my opinion.

- no metzger
- no manual

 

+1

The 991 is bigger than the 997 and the successor to the 991 is not going to get smaller.

 

+2

 

But I can almost assure you that the successor to the 991 will be faster, have more power, handle even better with even more electronic gizmos and nannies. You know how we enthusiasts love our gizmos (just look at the number of complaints about the .1 PCM with its lack of iPod connectivity and Bluetooth etc)...hint, I suspect many of us will lust after the 991 successor as well...just being honest We love these cars!

 

Agree with you on this, no doubt.

Look at the 930, 964, 993 and 997 interior. If you remove the PCM section of the 997, the layout of the dash is similar to the the older models with the exception of 996.

The 991 on the other hand is becoming more luxurious/ a GT cruiser and this is something that isn't the case with the 997. The design language has taken a new course. I am sure we will all love to have future models of the turbo, but hold on to these 997's, they will be sought after in the future imo.

 

I'll be honest I would prob add one to the stable If I could but would not replace my current .1 with useless pcm LMAO

 

Mav you raise a very interesting point, one that's come up before, from a collectible/sought after standpoint, how will time treat the 997? Depending on where one lands on the question above, one will either treat the 997 as (i) an investment (i.e., low mileage garage queen), (ii) as a well driven stable mate/compliment to a DD, or (iii) in extreme, as a full blown DD. I am currently at option (ii).

My rationale is that while the 997 is an excellent 911, it doesn't really have any special cache that would warrant collectible status in the future (i.e., it's not the last of anything such as air-cooled, unless you count the last hydraulic steering 911 for what that's worth), the 997 enjoyed a nice production run (i.e., it's not exactly exclusive) and finally it wasn't marketed as exotic, it's basically the mule of supercars (i.e., supercar performance with everyday reliability, utility and driveability).

So I'm not rationing or conserving my miles as I fully expect to move on in 2-3 yrs...i hope I'm not wrong!

 

Totally agree with you. I love my turbo and to this day it still puts a smile on my face. But I agree, I don't think there's anything super special about our cars that'll make them collectible. It's certainly a very special car but there just too many built and nothing unique as you said. In some strange way I think the 996 will be more of a collectible. It was so radically different and then porsche "righted" the ship with the 997 that it may be more sought after by collectors. Any thoughts?

 

It's the last of the dry sump gt1 based mezger engine and g50 tranny combo offered in a turbo....equal to the last air cooled IMHO.

 

Everyday Driver is a Youtube channel consisting of a couple guys that do all sorts of car reviews. They did a big special pay per view where they drove all of the 911 generations, and this was what got played on Velocity. On the version you can rent from Youtube, they both put the 993 as their #2 choice, with one going for the 991 and one going for the 997 as their #1. It's a really good video they put together and well worth looking for it again on Velocity or just paying the couple bucks to watch it on Youtube.

 

Excellent point Chris, I forgot about the Mezger gt1 engine in the .1s! That certainly shifts the balance a bit but is it enough to tip the scales into collectible car territory? it might be, time will tell... in any case, for those of us with .2 DFI engines, we don't have that distinction (sucks for us!) LOL

 

MK23 i think the 996 might eventually become a collectible in the same way that some people collect Yugos and Trabants! Anomalies that are deemed worthy of preservation by a select niche who revel in their flaws...!

 

I love this review. On a side note I giggle when a guy with Clarkson's driving skill gushes about its handling. He must not have the skills some guys here do as he doesnt feel the need to change it

 

I have to say that the front of the new 991 TT doesn't appeal to me. When I look at it from a frontal view, it seems to be missing something. And for that price I just can't bring myself to a purchase if I'm absolutely not in love with it. I hope that in four years there's a new TT that will steal my heart.

Jay

 

Guaranteed !
All manual 1's will become collectable but the '09 will be 'highly collectable'.