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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HP11
I've seen a lot of comments about manual vs trip vs pdk.

Is a manual clutch supposed to feel "hard?" Last one I test drove, the clutch wore my leg out. There was tons of tension/pressure when I was depressing the clutch. Dealer was like, 'Hmmmm...try another one. I did, and same feel." I have test driven a manual M6, Corvette, Z06 and none of them felt the same. Quite the opposite....super easy to depress. No tension or pressure and most importantly, my leg wasn't worn out....

How is the clutch "supposed" to feel?
IT feels slow... 6Spd is a 4 sec car. tip is a just of 3 second car that my wife can do with a little practice. PDK is an under 3 sec car.
Thats your options. Do you want to be spending your time enjoying the car and the road or figuring when you need to downshift etc? I spend more time learning braking points, and just enjoying the road.
Sitting in traffic is so easy too.
I have NEVER one single time wished i had a manual. But I sold my m3 fast because I ended up HATING that 6spd. There are two sides to a driving enthusiast or purist, do you love the feel of forces and the road? or do you love manipulating engineering first , feeling the forces second? There isnt one F1, ALMS, GT driver that wishes he had a manual.
 
Old Jun 10, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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That frame looks pretty twisted up. You will have to strip the car and put it on a rig in order to get it right, as well as possibly section it (weld in new material) at the points where it kinked/bent. Unless you *really* know what you are doing I would stay far away from this.

Cars get salvage titled for different reasons, but one with this much apparent damage is not a good way to go for such a high powered car in my opinion.
The potential for serious frame damage seems to be everyone's greatest concern. Taking all of the feedback into account has created serious doubt about the seller's comments.
 
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My enthusiasm for this car has waned dramatically. Thanks to all for the informative comments. At the end of the day, waaaaaaay too much risk.

At this point, I am stepping away.

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Not only risk, but an often overlooked point is that the only real savings is on the opportunity cost of having less money into the car.

The title is tainted -- it's salvaged. It's not like you can fix it and then sell it an non-salvaged prices. Not only are salvaged cars hard to sell, especially high-end cars, but you'll have to sell it at a decent discount anyway.

The net savings when it's all said an done is really not that much compared to a perfect car.
 
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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Not only risk, but an often overlooked point is that the only real savings is on the opportunity cost of having less money into the car.

The title is tainted -- it's salvaged. It's not like you can fix it and then sell it an non-salvaged prices. Not only are salvaged cars hard to sell, especially high-end cars, but you'll have to sell it at a decent discount anyway.

The net savings when it's all said an done is really not that much compared to a perfect car.
Agreed. The more I processed the feedback from other members and crunched the numbers...the costs began to increase considerably to the point of making the purchase of a non-wrecked turbo between $60k and $65k much more appealing and MUCH MUCH easier as I don't have to spend hours on end acquiring parts and repairing the car.

Maybe if the car wasn't so damaged, the result would be different. Regardless, this forum was extremely helpful!

Thanks everyone
 
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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Stay away!

I understand it's very appealing but 9/10 when dealing with projects like this there are a lot of unforeseen expenses you must take care of.

IF this car was around $20k, then yeah it's a good deal. NOT for $41K.

BTW all these salvage yards say their cars run/drives...not always true.
 
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Stay away!

I understand it's very appealing but 9/10 when dealing with projects like this there are a lot of unforeseen expenses you must take care of.

IF this car was around $20k, then yeah it's a good deal. NOT for $41K.
I couldn't agree more on both fronts.

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BTW all these salvage yards say their cars run/drives...not always true.[/QUOTE]

I have begun to wonder about this. I have called the salvage yard several times about this turbo and about a different vehicle. Each time, the response has been....different...as I ask more questions, I find out there is more and more damage. Or at the very least, they are NOT disclosing everything and just trying to make a sale by claiming "runs and drives, easy fix!"
 
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My friend is in the business of buying & selling cars from auctions & salvage yards like this.

These salvage yards will do and say anything to sell their car and will disclose only the obvious superficial damage. Literally dealing with scum people.

People who buy cars like these are dealers who fix them up and sell them overseas where the margin in higher.
 
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Originally Posted by kchociej
My friend is in the business of buying & selling cars from auctions & salvage yards like this.

These salvage yards will do and say anything to sell their car and will disclose only the obvious superficial damage. Literally dealing with scum people.

People who buy cars like these are dealers who fix them up and sell them overseas where the margin in higher.
Do you have any idea/perception of what the mark up is on these wrecked vehicles? Not so much after the repair, but as-is. Or, is it more a matter of "sell it for what I can get away with?"

So, with the wrecked turbo listed at 41,900...is it more likely the salvage yard paid 35k or 30k?

With traditional car deals, dealers like to give people rough trade-in or best case, average trade-in. I'm curious about how the the salvage world stacks up in comparison.
 
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