LOCAL in the USA PDK Upgrades
Whats the issue with fueling? Isn't it as simple as replacing the part causing the issue? Injectors, rails, pump etc? Something tells me it's not as simple as it sounds. 
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control the motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
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Agreed. Discussed with BBI recently.
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control he motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated (like Porsche itself) needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control he motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated (like Porsche itself) needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
Agreed not simple at all. Discussed with BBI at length recently.
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control the motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control the motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
8's? No chance except the middle east, but 9's on street tires here in the US, maybe
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Then there's the injectors. As far as I know, NO Direct Injection engine has a injector upgrade.
SO, what everybody does (whether it's the TT-G's or R8's with the V10 FSI motor, or the BMW N54) is run a supplemental, port fuel injection setup from the intake manifold. Luckily, on the TT-G's/R8s, the standalone market has been able to get CAN integration, so the Audi/VWAG relationship will hopefully make CAN integration feasible on the Porsche market.
But then there's the PDK...
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Champion cars are already running 9.8s on street tires....drag radials are street tires
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Agreed not simple at all. Discussed with BBI at length recently.
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control the motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
Anyone can upgrade the LPFP / HPFP and increase injector size.m etc. This has been tried years ago but the car will not run properly. It's the ECU. On the 997.2 and 991's, the ECU doesn't just control the motor. Or the trans. It controls essentially every aspect if the car. All at once. It's a brain. And it doesn't want anyone to f*ck with its fuel system. My guess is that someone very sophisticated needs to find the fueling codes buried deep in the millions or even billions of lines and reprogram it. This is not a task for a typical engine tuner. But rather an automotive software engineer with intimate knowledge of this particular ECU. Maybe even the guys that programmed it in the first place.
In terms of software and controlling fueling, I know a standalone such as syvecs has been brought up. Why not try what is working for the BMW DI upgrade kits? They are using the Split Second Additional Injection Controller. This is what Burger Tuning and Motiv Motorsport are using for their port injection kits for the N54 and N55. It simply connects to the each of the port injectors and uses a tach signal to spray at the ignition rate. It can be further fine tuned using its own software. Seems like a much simpler and cost effective solution than a standalone.
Here's links for both example of the port injection kit and the additional injection controller below for the BMW N54... possibly something to look into or try out.
http://www.motivmotorsport.com/produ...or-controller/
http://www.motivmotorsport.com/produ...it-second-aic/
http://burgertuning.com/N54_secondar...ctors_BMW.html
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Possibly something to consider what is done for the BMW N54, N55, and S55 DI cars... It would be interesting to see a plate port injection solution for the 9A1. Several companies have come up with port injection solutions for the BMW DI cars with an additional fuel rail and additional injectors under the oem intake manifold. I think BBI was looking into this. In addition to upgrading lines and the LPFP, this may be a nice fueling solution hardware wise.
In terms of software and controlling fueling, I know a standalone such as syvecs has been brought up. Why not try what is working for the BMI DI upgrade kits? They are using the Split Second Additional Injection Controller. This is what Burger Tuning and Motiv Motorsport are using for their port injection kits for the N54 and N55. It simply connects to the each of the port injectors and uses a tach signal to spray at the ignition rate. It can be further fine tuned using its own software. Seems like a much simpler and cost effective solution than a standalone.
Here's links for both example of the port injection kit and the additional injection controller below for the BMW N54. The link is for a 4 injection controller but 6 injector modules are available is well... possibly something to look into or try out.
http://www.motivmotorsport.com/produ...or-controller/
http://www.motivmotorsport.com/produ...it-second-aic/
http://burgertuning.com/N54_secondar...ctors_BMW.html
In terms of software and controlling fueling, I know a standalone such as syvecs has been brought up. Why not try what is working for the BMI DI upgrade kits? They are using the Split Second Additional Injection Controller. This is what Burger Tuning and Motiv Motorsport are using for their port injection kits for the N54 and N55. It simply connects to the each of the port injectors and uses a tach signal to spray at the ignition rate. It can be further fine tuned using its own software. Seems like a much simpler and cost effective solution than a standalone.
Here's links for both example of the port injection kit and the additional injection controller below for the BMW N54. The link is for a 4 injection controller but 6 injector modules are available is well... possibly something to look into or try out.
http://www.motivmotorsport.com/produ...or-controller/
http://www.motivmotorsport.com/produ...it-second-aic/
http://burgertuning.com/N54_secondar...ctors_BMW.html
Last edited by longboarder; Oct 22, 2015 at 02:08 PM.