Thegame- yes it will upshift by itself at redline in manual mode with sport mode on. If you let off gas before it reaches redline it will stay in gear- With in town driving in manual mode (sport on or off-no diff) it will also downshift to lower gear as you slow down for lights, etc.

i'm not saying Tip is better than 6sp- i'm happy with mine & wasn't sure i would be when purchased.

In my case i wasn't even looking for a TT- was happy with my 996 C2- saw a great deal locally for a beautiful 1 owner, low mileage, CPO car in a great color-couldn't pass it up- (watched it drop in price by $19k over 3 months & bought it).

 

Wow 19k in 3 months that's amazing for the buyer. I'm really hoping by march/April I'll be able to pick up the following car

07-08 Tiptronic turbo low miles 25k or less. Well maintained, clean carfax, and pass a PPI.
Silver or gray with black interior. The only option that's a must have for me is sports chrono package.

I'd like to be able to find this car for about 70k. My wife and I will start shopping this march/April. = )

 

I drove both before buying my 6 speed. Tip is faster and easier to drive faster. Just buckle and smash the pedal. I went with the 6 speed because the car was plenty fast and I personally missed rowing through the gears with my last car (Isf)

 

Not true, I'm probably better about logging my data than almost anyone here. I roll raced several stock 6 spds with my tip before I did any mods. It was the same everytime, I was 2-3 lengths ahead everytime. Sure there was a little variance between the drivers, but they weren't going to make up 3 car lengths.

 

Dude that is about 2-3 seconds, you can generally figure 1 second is a car length or close.... and you are arguing with a guy that actually said everything wrong that you could possibly say about the Tip.

And that is a wrong comment from the guy about holding boost, the 6 speed WILL NOT hold boost like the tip or PDK will. Again modify your stock 6sp and a stock tip will still beat it. Its facts. Mod the tip to the max its gearbox can handle and its going to run with or beat about every 6spd it encounters. Sorry 6 speed owners that is facts.
Just because you can mod a 6speed to 1000hp Doesnt mean it can effectively apply that number to the ground.

Why get a 911 and get it in a version that still can shift faster than a human? Same reason F1 and everyone else did. Efficiency. You can pick the line you want and get the car in the gear you want faster than a manual, which reads faster track times. Put the same driver in the tip and he will beat his 6spd times. That is what one of the Porsche factory drivers says. I need to find his quote.
Why buy a tip? Because it still out performs a 6spd. In fact it will outperform a 997.2 6 spd. The only 911 that will OUTPERFORM, see i said it again, is the PDK.
So that is why you get a 6spd is because you want a car that will beat almost everyone else on the road and you trade off the fact that you better be careful when you see another 911tt but you can enjoy rowing the gears.

Being a guy that likes rowing gears doesnt make you a better person or driver than a guy that goes out and gets the best performing car he can afford.

 

what are the results from the mods? Or do you not what to shame the uninformed-neverdroveit-hater 6spd fan club more?

 

Its not a "regular old auto transmission" and you are wrong on your boost holding. The tip is faster in every way. And please the DT loss and weight is a tired old argument from the uninformed. You lose all credibility using it. Its 70 pounds more, and Porsche factored everything into it and still made it faster. You do realize faster equates across the board, faster in corners faster out. Not just in a straight line.

read above as to why you get one. Because you want to outperform every porsche on the road but the PDK.

You do realize that stock for stock the tip is over a second faster 0-100 even though the tip is behind until 30mph. The tip is even faster from a roll. The ability to put constant and CONSISTENT power is something the tip gives you that the 6spd never will.
That is why the tip and its "regular old auto transmission" is a better performing car.
That is facts not opinion. Be a purist and row gears, no one is knocking you like you are bashing the tip. But remember you traded the performance to row.

 

guess what another thing about the tip you should never have to worry about. YUP bad DME reports. It wont let it money shift unless there is a software program installed that would foolishly allow it.
So as far as reliability goes, you have that in your corner. The car wont allow you to get into the dangerous 3+ dme area and wont let you money shift via downshifting too many gears causing a catastrophic overrev and a new engine.

 

Oh yeah or not touch it and it will go back to auto.

 

I drove a tip and didn't like it. I drove a PDK, and did like it.

Here is what Car & Driver had to say.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test


This is not anywhere close to what you are saying. Your magical tiptronic which runs unicorn tears as transmission fluid beats a manual by "3 seconds". I don't know dude, I'm glad you like your car. At this point the only reason I bother to post this is so that people don't actually search this thread later and believe you.

 

Did you read anything past the first line. By 60 mph, that lost time is made up and the Tiptronic matches the manual car's 3.4-second blast. From there, it continues to gain ground and edges out the manual in the quarter-mile by a scant 0.1 second—11.6 seconds at 122 mph versus 11.7 at 121—and it stays ahead the rest of the way, hitting 160 mph in 22.1 seconds versus 23.8. In case you're wondering, that quarter-mile time is better than the quickest 505-hp Corvette Z06 we've tested.


And they are actually on the Porsche times with it. Means they bogged it. Most other rags are closer to 3.0-3.2 0-60. And if you read the rest they couldnt figure out the overboost... its so hard LOL. They didnt say they have the overboost on, so you can go 50/50 if it was off. Seeing so many other tests have it under 22 seconds and under 3.4 I would say they didnt.


Here is road and track, and they admit they are 6speed fans. Porsche claims a 0-60-mph time near 3.5 sec., with the 5-speed Tiptronic being quicker than the Getrag 6-speed manual. This is because the torque converter can load the turbo system before launch. For the utmost in driving response, however, opt for the manual 6-speed whose linkage moves like a well-oiled rifle bolt.


here is an autoweek review where they picked the tip to run against the GT http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...-over-top-spot

 

Yeah, I did read past the first line. It looks like they are so close that variance from run to run could be more of a factor. I'm done posting on this until you either provide something other than extremely passionate opinion (which I applaud you for, but take a pill or something good lord).







You need to be more like this guy.

 

I see a difference of .1 in the quarter and 1.7 in to 160mph. I don't see a 3 sec difference.

Either way, the fact is, the advantage the tip has (in stock form) is the WOT shifts that keeps boost. When you add no-lift **** to the 6mt as EPL has done and as Cobb is adding, then that advantage is taken away. You then swing it back to the 6mt because it can hold more power when you decide to mod.

-Jose

 

Because he found the most conservative he could find where they couldnt figure out how to use the overboost on the tip.

And you are speaking a theory. The tip still shift faster. and read my edits. I am adding reviews. Im am glad they figure out how to add some boost on the shift but until you have time proof you cant take it to the bank.
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...o/viewall.html

 

Dude you are utterly clueless. You posted a conservative fact, that destroys your argument. Remember the weight and TC cant overcome the loss.. Right? Looks like you are wrong again. Remember tip is faster off the line... slower and will get beat ? You should read that pic you posted and apply it.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...o/viewall.html