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Old Dec 30, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Well just got word they won't go through with a CPO. The engine's got some over-rev's on it preventing that. I guess a whole lot of value just got knocked off the car..

What is generally considered "danger" or "don't buy" territory when it comes to over-revs? Trying to get the full DME report.
 
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The seats really arent seats. The bottoms are velcroed on and the back can be easily removed. Some people here love the PCCB but i dont get it they are not great on the track and stop same as the non. They dont have dust.. not a worthwhile option IHMO. Dev stitching should be colored.... black stitching...humm.


Where are you gonna be stationed?

Black Dev stitching...I think somebody might have forgot to cover them before using SEM Surecoat to "refinish the seat". Watchout for stuff like that! By the way, SEM Surecoat is awesome! If you cover up the silver stitching.
 
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Well just got word they won't go through with a CPO. The engine's got some over-rev's on it preventing that. I guess a whole lot of value just got knocked off the car..

What is generally considered "danger" or "don't buy" territory when it comes to over-revs? Trying to get the full DME report.
The danger of a 6 speed, idiots overrev and if they wont CPO it I would walk
 
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Lately, I have read that the position sensor at the flywheel which causes that high rpm overshoot, may be contributing to the DME over rev. It's been happening to me lately. Yesterday after installing my exhaust I went for a test drive. I accelerated and blew the intercooler house right off. Engine would cutoff and it gave me a check engine light. I snapped it back on and got my durametric tester and cleared it. Funny thing is I got 4 over rev on range 5. That's bul****! I don't miss gears or any of that nonsense. I rarely drive my car anyhow. So it does do the spike stuff most of the time. I dropped my engine about three months ago and wished it would have done the adjustment.
 
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Lately, I have read that the position sensor at the flywheel which causes that high rpm overshoot, may be contributing to the DME over rev. It's been happening to me lately. Yesterday after installing my exhaust I went for a test drive. I accelerated and blew the intercooler house right off. Engine would cutoff and it gave me a check engine light. I snapped it back on and got my durametric tester and cleared it. Funny thing is I got 4 over rev on range 5. That's bul****! I don't miss gears or any of that nonsense. I rarely drive my car anyhow. So it does do the spike stuff most of the time. I dropped my engine about three months ago and wished it would have done the adjustment.
I recently read that too.. So you're saying that the range 5s were simply caused by hitting the rev limiter to the point where it cut the fuel? Do you have a tune with a raised rev limiter?
 
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Dont want to go off topic but In my case I am 100% convinced that I am not doing this. So it has to be that. It does range 1 thru 5 all at a specific time. No way in hell I am doing this. I will drop my engine again in a few months and buy the sensor and set it to 1.2mm. I have a lift so it's not that big of a deal. I just did my exhaust this Sunday and took off the intercoolers to get to the cats. It just a pain in the rear. All the fluids have to be changed again. Oil, pentosin, coolant what a pain. Yes on the tune FVD no on the limiter. No the hose disconnected when the boost came on. Scared the crap out of me.
 

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Ya that sucks. According to Porsche your vehicle could no longer be warrantied and resale value takes a dive.. I wonder how accurate the system is like you say.
 
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Not worried, like I have said before, if i want those rev counters erased, I know exactly where to go.
 
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Just curious - more from a trying to be a savvy consumer!! - but if you erase the over-revs - won't that cause an anomaly versus the number of hours the engine has been run? More specifically - can you just erase the 4/5/6 type over-revs and NOT the 1/2/3? I think by looking at a DME you would expect a fair number of 1/2/3 over-revs on an engine that has say 700 hours on it? and if you were to erase those - would be a tell-tale sign that someone was messing with the ECU? Again - more curious than anything else.

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Not worried, like I have said before, if i want those rev counters erased, I know exactly where to go.
 
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4. What is the consensus these days about stock connecting rod torque limit? 700-800 ft/lb? AMS says the Alpha nine is fine on stock internals, the Alpha 10 comes with Rod's (although I am not interested in changing the stock rod's).
I am planning something similar and would also like to know what engine internals need to be replaced at what hp/tq level on a 997.1 TT since I am not in this subforum too often.

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7. Anything particularly difficult about this car to work on in a well kitted garage? I've never worked on a flat six rear engine. Any odd/special tools?
If you are talking about opening up the engine to potentially replace the rods and pistons, there are alot of special tools involved. I have done the math at came out at about $4K in special tools that need to be ordered from Porsche (997.1).

Keep in mind, this is just the admission ticket. Parts, labor, etc are added on top of that figure.
 
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Ok guys pilled the trigger:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191466619875...E:B:BODO:MOT:1

Yes, I know not a 6MT! The car does have some real nice upgrades to the Tiptronic, so it should shift real nice. Plus handling that kind of horsepower to the ground would probably be better with both hands on the wheel.

So car is gorgeous/pristine, great carfax, full AMS Alpha 9 install, fully upgraded Tipronic, bad-*** GMG exhaust. Better nav unit mod/stereo upgrade.

Does anyone know what a set of four Champion Motorsports wheels below with brand new tires would go for on the used market?





I know most people are, but I'm not a huge fan of black wheels.

Thinking about going real special with some HRE P101's in 20" like on this car:


 

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Originally Posted by Zybane
Ok guys pilled the trigger:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191466619875...E:B:BODO:MOT:1

Yes, I know not a 6MT! The car does have some real nice upgrades to the Tiptronic, so it should shift real nice. Plus handling that kind of horsepower to the ground would probably be better with both hands on the wheel.

So car is gorgeous/pristine, great carfax, full AMS Alpha 9 install, fully upgraded Tipronic, bad-*** GMG exhaust. Better nav unit mod/stereo upgrade.

Does anyone know what a set of four Champion Motorsports wheels below with brand new tires would go for on the used market?





I know most people are, but I'm not a huge fan of black wheels.

Thinking about going real special with some HRE P101's in 20" like on this car:


Nice, who cares it's not a six speed. It's like someone saying real snipers use iron sights. Or a single power optic and no spotter.
Enjoy having a sick car no one is gonna touch you in. Really a cool car and you saved so much cash letting someone else take the mod hit. Nice work.

I'm still trying to find wheels for my car I like. I can't stand black, unless it's on a matte black car.
 
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Ya, I was going to do the Alpha 9 install myself but I figure why not just get one with it already installed lol.

The transmission is really upgraded too by Weistec Engineering, supposedly a pretty top notch outfit. They do a lot of AMG upgrades and the trans is the same they use in a lot of V12 Mercedes etc.. Able to hold 1000 ft/lbs's, shouldn't ever have to worry about the trans and no new clutch installs.

I hear ya on the black. It makes the wheels hard to see. I like the Champion wheels on the car but must switch them out for a different color. The HRE P101's are among the best wheels out there IMO. Anyone else have any top contenders? I'd like to limit the four wheel purchase to $10K though.




 

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There are a lot better then HRE to be honest. Look at the wheel thread you are gonna find some champions that you will love. its towards the last page. Gray isnt too bad.

Yes you are right the MB tranny was built to handle power especially with boosted cars, the wiestec ones are really solid. Seems someone did it right. Be careful, you are gonna love the tip as you will need both hands on the will with that power. Guys go on about 6.8-7sec 60-130 you should be much less. I tried to time my shifts in my car that is stock and it shifted in less than second. I couldnt get a good time because it would shift before I could start stop it. No human can beat that.

The stock version also wont let you misshift either, it doesnt rev match ( my only complaint) but it wont shift so that the rears break traction either. You will see how misinformed people are about the tip when you get it.

And you really dont want PCCB either so that is good. Also do NOT F with the suspension. Read the threads on it and learn from guys that track the car and understand why Porsche did what they did.

Only thing I would say about the car, is the k40 needs to be constantly updated as the Laser and Radar is getting better that it was. Not that its bad but do some research on it. Its a gravy add to the car but dont rely on it.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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I will check out the wheel thread. I know wheels though besides weight and strength are completely subjective. I absolutely love some of the HRE wheels though!

I am having a inspection done on the car, I wonder with the Tiptronic if a DME readout is needed? Can the car even get into over-rev's?

Ya PCCB is kind a mixed blessing. I love the initial bite of them, the look and the no brake dust but if I ever have to replace them, geez!

As for suspension, since he didn't list anything I take it's stock. Can the suspension height be adjusted on a stock 997.1? The wheel gap is just a bit too large for me and I'd like to lower it .5 to 1 inch. I know after doing that it should really be re-aligned..

As for the K40, I know it's a lower quality unit. I have a STi-R plus and laser interceptor in my other vehicle. I will have to look into the K40 and see if I can update it and or be comfortable with it enough to trust without having an internal radar detector like my Redline in a sports car.... well as I drive quite fast.


I haven't driven the car yet, when I put the Tip into sport mode how does it act? Will it hold a gear if I manually shift like my GTR or will it automatically up-shift? I'm not sure if Weistec reprogrammed it or what. I have an email into them to see if they can tell me all what was done.
 


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