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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fadi
I agree with your statement, unless the 335i is perfectly modded and balanced...saw 135i getting faster laps than M3s

But getting that kind of balance for a 335i will be hard to get, also 335i might get the fastest lap but after a few laps will get hot like hell, I have installed additional cooling on mine and still temps go through the roof after few laps
Sorry, yeah, I ignored the part about suspension or other mods which certainly would close the gap vs an M3 if not beat it. Torque wins.
 
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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7
In fairness to VW, Porsche went to the DFI motor in 2010 and weren't bought out by VW until 2012 from what I understand.
And Porsche has been the most profitable car company in the world - by a lot - for years. Their gross margin is around 18%. BMW's is around 10%. Industry average is 6%.
 
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 11:09 PM
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VAG is switching to port+direct injection, fuel economy + carbon build up issues.
 
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Originally Posted by campbellcj
Sorry, yeah, I ignored the part about suspension or other mods which certainly would close the gap vs an M3 if not beat it. Torque wins.
sorry guys but a modded 335 will not be a better performer then an M3/4 unless you throw so much money at it that people laugh at you. At that point why not simply buy the better car out of the box? Then throw some simple mods on it and have a very good street/track car?
 
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Wasnt the use of DFI initially used to increase fuel economy? This is the same reason all manufacturers are going to FI. For me its simply the evolution of the industry. The simple way to look at it is that each new model seams to get a bit faster and more efficient and to me thats great. Yes in some cases it takes away from what made the original so desirable but thats just the name of the game.
 
Old Feb 8, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendall993
sorry guys but a modded 335 will not be a better performer then an M3/4 unless you throw so much money at it that people laugh at you. At that point why not simply buy the better car out of the box? Then throw some simple mods on it and have a very good street/track car?
With the current gen I would not dispute this but the reference was to the last gen, torquey turbo I6 vs. peaky NA V8. Closer call there. Sorry to go so OT...back to 997TT
 
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