I have heard from 3-4 places but no official sources that the current 3.8 DFI motor is going to be replaced in 16 or 17 to come out with a new engine.

Does anyone have any CONFIRMED reports? If so why are they doing it and what is the new platform?

Any chance it could be part of the move to the 4 cylinder turbo movement?

 

I don't know. But I would guess the announcement that all 911's will be fitted with turbos has something to do with it. The TT will need to stay out front as the flagship Turbo. Same problem occurred with the BMW 335i. As the little brother of the M3, it was pushing horsepower and handling which wasn't far back from the M3. For the $20K uplift people questioned if it was worth it. I heard rumours that the new M3 would be fitted with Turbos. Which for M3 enthusiast, kills the naturally aspirated engine.

Perhaps the 16/17 TT will be putting 575-600hp at the wheels?

 

Perhaps this sheds some light?

LINK HERE

That platform did not last long! (3.8 DFI)??

DC

 

Those rumors are pretty exact as the actual M3 has turbos, LOL

Old 335i with suspension and braking mods will beat the old m3 v8 in ANY kind of contest, only the superb V8 engine sound is better than 335i

 

Correct - the E9X M3 was the last of the NA M3 engines.

 

Does this make the "limited production" 3.8L DFI engine (5 -6 yr run) an instant collector's item (particularly in turbo variant and more so the turbo S)? Should I park my turbo S in a climate controlled garage and watch the value rise?

 

If anything, they will go down in value. DFI is a "consumer" engine. A debasement if you will allow me to explain. DFI was produced to reduce costs plain and simple. Mated to an automatic transmission to control and gaurd against failure. One only has to see that Porsche racing does not use these types of engines. Why is a 993 more expensive than a comparable 997? Because it is period. Why is a GT1 engine more desirable than a DFI engine? Because it is period. VW took over and Porsche has to make a profit and reduce costs. That's what I see when I look, touch and feel the new 991 iterations. Even the leather is different. Plastic all over the place. Look at BMW, they don't make them like they used to.

 

For a street car, I agree. On the track, not so sure...

 

"VW took over and Porsche has to make a profit and reduce costs."

Ding ding ding .. we have a winner.

 

In fairness to VW, Porsche went to the DFI motor in 2010 and weren't bought out by VW until 2012 from what I understand.

 

Probably but the writing is on the wall. New GT4 is a manual stick shift. Listen to the interview and it's clear as a bell. "We listened to the world". 6 speed will come back make no mistake about it. He even said that using an PDK transmission lowers the cost additionally. "When we make a manual transmission car, we must design much better to allow......". Guys go on YouTube and see and hear it for yourself. GT4

 

Off topic but I LOVE the GT4

 

The replies here on the DFI engine and VW/profitability are way too simplistic.

To keep it brief I will just say here that the DFI boxer 6 engine was introduced in 2009 and Porsche sold quite a few cars using that engine in its two offered displacements. It is quite unlikely the engine will cause a car having it to be a collector's item in the next 7-10-15 years. This engine was not used in the racing programs like the old Mezger engine in the 997 GT3 and previous, so hardcore Porsche historian/collector types don't value this engine for its importance...plus there are just too many of them out there. Collector values are driven by scarcity as much as appeal. That having been said, plenty of '09 MY and newer Porsche sports car owners have tracked their cars with the DFI engine, and enough time has now passed we know the engine is an excellent performer and is very robust. The DFI engine solved the big problem of IMS and RMS failures that plagued the previous engine generation.

The world is going turbocharged for emissions and fuel economy reasons, performance car brands are no exception. So the NA DFI mill will be phased out in the meat-n-potatoes Porsche models in the next few years. The facelifted 991.2 car and the upcoming Cayman/Boxster refresh are both said to carry turbo engines, for that reason.

 

I read somewhere also that the new 991 turbo will have a smaller displacement.

 

I agree with your statement, unless the 335i is perfectly modded and balanced...saw 135i getting faster laps than M3s

But getting that kind of balance for a 335i will be hard to get, also 335i might get the fastest lap but after a few laps will get hot like hell, I have installed additional cooling on mine and still temps go through the roof after few laps