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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 11:02 AM
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Prodigymb is right. I had my car flashed with a tune prior to changing out my entire exhaust system. No codes were thrown. After changing out the entire system for a Kline system, still no codes were thrown. I find it strange that your mechanic would suggest this.
My mechanic said it was possible it may throw codes if the tuner changed the parameters. There is no way he would know for sure and suggested talking with the tuner. He did say going stock was an option.
 
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Originally Posted by oddjob142
Ya'll were correct. Talked to evolution again and they said it likely won't throw any codes running the stock headers but it will have a "little more lag and less overall power". I may try to find some stock headers down the road and port/polish them prior to putting them on. Thanks for all the help everyone, I am so glad there are so many knowledgeable people willing to help.

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Woops, tried to respond to this yesterday but it didn't post apparently. I was going to say that CELs from the headers was not a concern. Glad you got it sorted out. Honestly at that power level I would be shocked if the headers added any power. Spool maybe, depending on the quality of the header. The factory parts are actually really nice.
 
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While on the subject of headers, which headers would you guys recommend for an external WG setup with garretts??
 
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Originally Posted by oddjob142
My mechanic said it was possible it may throw codes if the tuner changed the parameters. There is no way he would know for sure and suggested talking with the tuner. He did say going stock was an option.
As others have said, you will get No codes. Also, this is a 1 hour job...maybe, so easy to change. I have a tuned car and there is nothing a header will do to throw a CEL. I have switched back and forth several times from OEM / Aftermarket until I found some I liked....no issues.

Ended up with Schnell Satinlesss Headers BTW. Been on a while and seem great quality.





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Originally Posted by oddjob142
Ya'll were correct. Talked to evolution again and they said it likely won't throw any codes running the stock headers but it will have a "little more lag and less overall power". I may try to find some stock headers down the road and port/polish them prior to putting them on. Thanks for all the help everyone, I am so glad there are so many knowledgeable people willing to help.

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You would notice less of a power only if you drive and push you car 80% to100% of full throttler other wise you won't feel a lot of change between stock and aftermarket headers .
 

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I made well over 800whp on stock manifolds, 2nd the previous post.
imagine if you changed them!!!!!!!!!! you'll be over 900 hp haha
 
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imagine if you changed them!!!!!!!!!! you'll be over 900 hp haha
Headers really would not have helped, the turbos were maxed out making the power they should make based on compressor flow.
 
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OEM 997.1 headers are a great design. No "need" to change them for power reasons. A lot of people make the mistake of just bolting on anything and everything available out there only to realize no changes or that they've lost some performance aspect out of their setup. In fact if you go larger diameter on the exhaust manifold runners before you have a reason for it you'll only slow down spool up. I don't see either exhaust manifolds or intake on the 997.1 being a restriction worth changing until past 1000hp. Intake piping though going down to the turbos is a worth while upgrade as it allows the turbos to breathe easier and allows for more top end boost with higher octane fuels.

With 997.1s specifically and VTG style turbos our advice on the hardware upgrade side is to leave the OEM manifolds in place, remove restrictions from your exhaust (higher flowing cats or decat for off-road use only of course) and get a quality set of intercoolers (and/or adding meth injection). If you've got E85 in your area then add injectors with an appropriate tune to get the most fun reliable power out of it.

We've recently had a chance to work with the IPD's 82mm plenum and GT3 throttle body and they've nicely improved throttle response over the stock 74mm throttle body so if you're looking to get a bit more response out of the car at throttle tip in this is a nice way to do it.

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