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Great to hear your rods are good, I think it gives peace of mind to others that are still on stock blocks looking for around the same power level.
How many miles would you say you put on the car with the round 2 mods? Looked to be around 2 months before you started to upgrade again.
Great info btw, keep it coming!
How many miles would you say you put on the car with the round 2 mods? Looked to be around 2 months before you started to upgrade again.
Great info btw, keep it coming!
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Great to hear your rods are good, I think it gives peace of mind to others that are still on stock blocks looking for around the same power level.
How many miles would you say you put on the car with the round 2 mods? Looked to be around 2 months before you started to upgrade again.
Great info btw, keep it coming!
How many miles would you say you put on the car with the round 2 mods? Looked to be around 2 months before you started to upgrade again.
Great info btw, keep it coming!
take them apart and line them up on a flat surface, then look through the wristpin holes of all 6
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
Those look great to me James. You had a great knock free tune on there with appropriate octane and I honestly suspected nothing else. Freak accidents, bad octane and in some cases inability of monitoring/ignorance/misunderstanding (e.g. cranking boost on a boost controller because one can/easy to do) are what seem to cause issues at times too early on this motor for the power/torque they're making.
Looking forward to your updates very soon.
Cheers -
Dzenno@PTF
Looking forward to your updates very soon.
Cheers -
Dzenno@PTF
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I thought I'd post an update because it's been awhile.....
SRM is shipping my bottom end parts out this week (Pistons/Cylinders/Studs/Studs adapter/Rods). The heads are scheduled to be completed by the end of the week also.
I ended up picking up a tig welder last week. It does AC/DC and I got all the goodies to do every metal I'll ever need it for. Last year, I paid $2750 to have a couple short pieces of tubing welded. I bought the entire welding set up for less money. I've decided to make my own exhaust and other parts..... That seems like a much better investment to me. I've been playing with it and will have some nice beads very shortly. I'm feeling pretty good about that purchase.
On to another purchase..... I was looking to get a more "positive" shifter for my car. I was torn on the numeric and the CAE shifters. My goal to this build was to make a lot of power, but feel/look stock. I really liked the short throw of the CAE but wasn't sure if I wanted the tall tower sticking out in the interior. I can imagine the shifter being in the way of the touch screen radio when I need to change it constantly.... regardless, I thought the CAE was cool and reached out to Hard Motorsport. I asked Jake if he had some type of discount for a 6Speed member who could say nice things about their shifter in my build thread. Quite honestly, the shifter is grossly overpriced at $1570. He said he couldn't give a discount, but would cover the shipping. I said that would work as long as it came by air, ground USPS is taking 5 weeks from USA-CAN right now and has an $80 duty charge on arrival. The cost of the shipping is about $30 to the company and the bulk of the charge is made on arrival by me. $30 is not much of a savings on a $1570 shifter. I went ahead and got a quote for him for $94 USD to ship via Fedex air. This is the discount he would be giving me on the $1570 shifter. He said his boss wouldn't approve it as it would basically eat up ALL of their profit. I responded asking "how much his boss was wiling to pay for the shipping?". I thought, if he was willing to discount $40 for the shipping, I could pay the $54 difference and have them send it by air. His response was that he has wasted enough time on the emails to me and that he would adjust the shipping at his discretion and that if it takes 5 1/2 weeks to get to me, he's sorry. He ended the email with "My offer expires end of business day". I guess there is just no way he could take that $30 risk tomorrow on the shipping? It would have to be today!
Needless to say, I went directly to the numeric website, ordered a shifter and cables.... received an instant 10% discount ($115) and got the shifter AND cables shipped to my door for $1105 all in. I saved $465 USD, and will have a beautiful stock fitting shifter WITH nice upgraded cables in 3 days to my door.
So it looks like I have found another lousy, over priced vendor that I can suggest no one uses in the Porsche after market scene. Unfortunately, this is pretty much the standard of what exists in this market. 2000% mark-up, unavailable support and not interested in selling their products. I guess if you have a few customers looking to spend $250,000 each, you don't need the 1000's of other customers?
SRM is shipping my bottom end parts out this week (Pistons/Cylinders/Studs/Studs adapter/Rods). The heads are scheduled to be completed by the end of the week also.
I ended up picking up a tig welder last week. It does AC/DC and I got all the goodies to do every metal I'll ever need it for. Last year, I paid $2750 to have a couple short pieces of tubing welded. I bought the entire welding set up for less money. I've decided to make my own exhaust and other parts..... That seems like a much better investment to me. I've been playing with it and will have some nice beads very shortly. I'm feeling pretty good about that purchase.
On to another purchase..... I was looking to get a more "positive" shifter for my car. I was torn on the numeric and the CAE shifters. My goal to this build was to make a lot of power, but feel/look stock. I really liked the short throw of the CAE but wasn't sure if I wanted the tall tower sticking out in the interior. I can imagine the shifter being in the way of the touch screen radio when I need to change it constantly.... regardless, I thought the CAE was cool and reached out to Hard Motorsport. I asked Jake if he had some type of discount for a 6Speed member who could say nice things about their shifter in my build thread. Quite honestly, the shifter is grossly overpriced at $1570. He said he couldn't give a discount, but would cover the shipping. I said that would work as long as it came by air, ground USPS is taking 5 weeks from USA-CAN right now and has an $80 duty charge on arrival. The cost of the shipping is about $30 to the company and the bulk of the charge is made on arrival by me. $30 is not much of a savings on a $1570 shifter. I went ahead and got a quote for him for $94 USD to ship via Fedex air. This is the discount he would be giving me on the $1570 shifter. He said his boss wouldn't approve it as it would basically eat up ALL of their profit. I responded asking "how much his boss was wiling to pay for the shipping?". I thought, if he was willing to discount $40 for the shipping, I could pay the $54 difference and have them send it by air. His response was that he has wasted enough time on the emails to me and that he would adjust the shipping at his discretion and that if it takes 5 1/2 weeks to get to me, he's sorry. He ended the email with "My offer expires end of business day". I guess there is just no way he could take that $30 risk tomorrow on the shipping? It would have to be today!
Needless to say, I went directly to the numeric website, ordered a shifter and cables.... received an instant 10% discount ($115) and got the shifter AND cables shipped to my door for $1105 all in. I saved $465 USD, and will have a beautiful stock fitting shifter WITH nice upgraded cables in 3 days to my door.So it looks like I have found another lousy, over priced vendor that I can suggest no one uses in the Porsche after market scene. Unfortunately, this is pretty much the standard of what exists in this market. 2000% mark-up, unavailable support and not interested in selling their products. I guess if you have a few customers looking to spend $250,000 each, you don't need the 1000's of other customers?
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Good one on the welder! That's something I've had on my personal projects list (this list grows bigger every year) for a while now.
As far as the discount on the shifter: So $94 was going to eat up ALL their profit margin? WOW really?!? How do they do manage to stay in business? (sarcasm)
-Jose
As far as the discount on the shifter: So $94 was going to eat up ALL their profit margin? WOW really?!? How do they do manage to stay in business? (sarcasm)
-Jose
I thought I'd post an update because it's been awhile.....
SRM is shipping my bottom end parts out this week (Pistons/Cylinders/Studs/Studs adapter/Rods). The heads are scheduled to be completed by the end of the week also.
I ended up picking up a tig welder last week. It does AC/DC and I got all the goodies to do every metal I'll ever need it for. Last year, I paid $2750 to have a couple short pieces of tubing welded. I bought the entire welding set up for less money. I've decided to make my own exhaust and other parts..... That seems like a much better investment to me. I've been playing with it and will have some nice beads very shortly. I'm feeling pretty good about that purchase.
On to another purchase..... I was looking to get a more "positive" shifter for my car. I was torn on the numeric and the CAE shifters. My goal to this build was to make a lot of power, but feel/look stock. I really liked the short throw of the CAE but wasn't sure if I wanted the tall tower sticking out in the interior. I can imagine the shifter being in the way of the touch screen radio when I need to change it constantly.... regardless, I thought the CAE was cool and reached out to Hard Motorsport. I asked Jake if he had some type of discount for a 6Speed member who could say nice things about their shifter in my build thread. Quite honestly, the shifter is grossly overpriced at $1570. He said he couldn't give a discount, but would cover the shipping. I said that would work as long as it came by air, ground USPS is taking 5 weeks from USA-CAN right now and has an $80 duty charge on arrival. The cost of the shipping is about $30 to the company and the bulk of the charge is made on arrival by me. $30 is not much of a savings on a $1570 shifter. I went ahead and got a quote for him for $94 USD to ship via Fedex air. This is the discount he would be giving me on the $1570 shifter. He said his boss wouldn't approve it as it would basically eat up ALL of their profit. I responded asking "how much his boss was wiling to pay for the shipping?". I thought, if he was willing to discount $40 for the shipping, I could pay the $54 difference and have them send it by air. His response was that he has wasted enough time on the emails to me and that he would adjust the shipping at his discretion and that if it takes 5 1/2 weeks to get to me, he's sorry. He ended the email with "My offer expires end of business day". I guess there is just no way he could take that $30 risk tomorrow on the shipping? It would have to be today! Needless to say, I went directly to the numeric website, ordered a shifter and cables.... received an instant 10% discount ($115) and got the shifter AND cables shipped to my door for $1105 all in. I saved $465 USD, and will have a beautiful stock fitting shifter WITH nice upgraded cables in 3 days to my door.
So it looks like I have found another lousy, over priced vendor that I can suggest no one uses in the Porsche after market scene. Unfortunately, this is pretty much the standard of what exists in this market. 2000% mark-up, unavailable support and not interested in selling their products. I guess if you have a few customers looking to spend $250,000 each, you don't need the 1000's of other customers?
SRM is shipping my bottom end parts out this week (Pistons/Cylinders/Studs/Studs adapter/Rods). The heads are scheduled to be completed by the end of the week also.
I ended up picking up a tig welder last week. It does AC/DC and I got all the goodies to do every metal I'll ever need it for. Last year, I paid $2750 to have a couple short pieces of tubing welded. I bought the entire welding set up for less money. I've decided to make my own exhaust and other parts..... That seems like a much better investment to me. I've been playing with it and will have some nice beads very shortly. I'm feeling pretty good about that purchase.
On to another purchase..... I was looking to get a more "positive" shifter for my car. I was torn on the numeric and the CAE shifters. My goal to this build was to make a lot of power, but feel/look stock. I really liked the short throw of the CAE but wasn't sure if I wanted the tall tower sticking out in the interior. I can imagine the shifter being in the way of the touch screen radio when I need to change it constantly.... regardless, I thought the CAE was cool and reached out to Hard Motorsport. I asked Jake if he had some type of discount for a 6Speed member who could say nice things about their shifter in my build thread. Quite honestly, the shifter is grossly overpriced at $1570. He said he couldn't give a discount, but would cover the shipping. I said that would work as long as it came by air, ground USPS is taking 5 weeks from USA-CAN right now and has an $80 duty charge on arrival. The cost of the shipping is about $30 to the company and the bulk of the charge is made on arrival by me. $30 is not much of a savings on a $1570 shifter. I went ahead and got a quote for him for $94 USD to ship via Fedex air. This is the discount he would be giving me on the $1570 shifter. He said his boss wouldn't approve it as it would basically eat up ALL of their profit. I responded asking "how much his boss was wiling to pay for the shipping?". I thought, if he was willing to discount $40 for the shipping, I could pay the $54 difference and have them send it by air. His response was that he has wasted enough time on the emails to me and that he would adjust the shipping at his discretion and that if it takes 5 1/2 weeks to get to me, he's sorry. He ended the email with "My offer expires end of business day". I guess there is just no way he could take that $30 risk tomorrow on the shipping? It would have to be today!
Needless to say, I went directly to the numeric website, ordered a shifter and cables.... received an instant 10% discount ($115) and got the shifter AND cables shipped to my door for $1105 all in. I saved $465 USD, and will have a beautiful stock fitting shifter WITH nice upgraded cables in 3 days to my door.So it looks like I have found another lousy, over priced vendor that I can suggest no one uses in the Porsche after market scene. Unfortunately, this is pretty much the standard of what exists in this market. 2000% mark-up, unavailable support and not interested in selling their products. I guess if you have a few customers looking to spend $250,000 each, you don't need the 1000's of other customers?
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When you deal with a professional business..... The transaction for this shifter was awesome from start to finish. It arrived 12 hours after it was shipped!!!
The shifter is absolutely beautiful, I can't wait to install it.
The shifter is absolutely beautiful, I can't wait to install it.
you mean to tell us there is no mark up in a 1500$ shifter assembly? mind blown ! lol !
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
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) ..... on the $699 shifter I bought, they had enough margin to reduce it to $600 for forum members. Maybe I should email CAE the info for Numeric so they can find a new manufacturer for their products? I don't know where all the profit is being made, CAE or Hard Motorsport, but there's definitely a crap load in it. I guess profit doesn't mean much if people aren't buying them.