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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
Yeah on E85 my guess would be 12-1300 tops. Even that is squeezing it at some high pressure.

He can make more on race fuel tho.
I agree 100%

There are 2 ways to try and push the limits of the injectors, low ethanol content, which could equal detonation, or high base pressure which could equal pump pressure loss. Both would extend the injectors slightly, but both coming with risks.
 
Old Jan 30, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
Yeah on E85 my guess would be 12-1300 tops. Even that is squeezing it at some high pressure.

He can make more on race fuel tho.
I was trying to vring this up gently, but i see you both decided a reality check wrecking ball was more appropriate
 
Old Jan 30, 2016 | 02:13 PM
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When I made 1500whp on my old setup I had 12 injectors (1000 and 2000's) and a Weldon. I was maxed out there with 1500whp. Not sure how you're making this work.
 
Old Jan 30, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by yumaverick
When I made 1500whp on my old setup I had 12 injectors (1000 and 2000's) and a Weldon. I was maxed out there with 1500whp. Not sure how you're making this work.
are you still running a single weldon ? I am running 3 pumps and scaring me..
 
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dynapack reads close to crank HP
 
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Originally Posted by AriS4
are you still running a single weldon ? I am running 3 pumps and scaring me..
Now that the car is making a tad under 1800whp we are currently adding another Weldon so two haha. Also moved to twin 1700 ID injectors.
 
Old Jan 30, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AriS4
are you still running a single weldon ? I am running 3 pumps and scaring me..
I would give Sean a call at Silly Rabbit Motorsports. His new fuel system is awesome. I already pulled the trigger on adding the second Weldon or I would have went with his kit.
 
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IF I ever need to change - I may put in a single weldon and be done w it. It is not the design so much but a pump failing that scares me. with a single pump failing .. (hope the car just shuts down ) ...
 
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are yo on stock coils ? any ignition upgrades ?
 
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Originally Posted by AriS4
IF I ever need to change - I may put in a single weldon and be done w it. It is not the design so much but a pump failing that scares me. with a single pump failing .. (hope the car just shuts down ) ...
thats why i had the silly rabbit motorsport brushless fuel system installed in my build. 1 pump handles 1000 hp and 2 1800+. we will start with a single pump and see how far it goes. if i need another before the turbos run out of air he will install one.
the single weldon would be external and still needs an internal pump to push fuel and run under 5psi. i ran a single in tank and an external magnafuel625. decent but major noisy and adds more parts to fail. this setup rocks on all levels!

i know he was working on dual rails for the 997 application as well
 
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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From just an injector stand point only (not sure of what pumps, lines etc)with E85 & using 7500rpms red line:




5BAR:
Injector duty WHP
85% = 1500
80% = 1400


3BAR:
85% = 1300
80% = 1230


Should be attainable on a dyno jet?
 

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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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+1 for the SRM brushless set up. State of the art and all in house!

OP good luck looking forward to more!
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
thats why i had the silly rabbit motorsport brushless fuel system installed in my build. 1 pump handles 1000 hp and 2 1800+. we will start with a single pump and see how far it goes. if i need another before the turbos run out of air he will install one.
the single weldon would be external and still needs an internal pump to push fuel and run under 5psi. i ran a single in tank and an external magnafuel625. decent but major noisy and adds more parts to fail. this setup rocks on all levels!

i know he was working on dual rails for the 997 application as well


Man that looks very clean and high quality unit.
 
Old Jan 30, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobbyfali
Man that looks very clean and high quality unit.
We tidied up the hat as the external lines were already there. The turn key system hides everything while retaining the oem cover
 


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