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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by xlr8ion
I just spent the weekend at PIR Raceway with my 07 z06. I did not get passed by any porsches but passed many. Other than the cgt no other porsche will touch this car at the track sorry.
Thats funny, because on stock suspension and stock tires the 997TT is faster around the 'ring' than the new z06 by almost 3 seconds(7:42.9 for the z06 and 7:40 for the 997TT). Thats a track, and its NOT faster. Porsche instill more confidence to the driver and are MUCH more stable at speeds above 100 mph. i have heard from plenty of people who own or have driven and say the vette un quite unstable at high speeds where the Porsche is planted esceptionally well.
 
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You know how it is, those who have spent time on the track have seen crazier stuff happen from lesser cars taking much faster cars (on paper) due to a variety of reasons.
 
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You know how it is, those who have spent time on the track have seen crazier stuff happen from lesser cars taking much faster cars (on paper) due to a variety of reasons.
Yea, well its a shame they dont take into consideration those various reasons. either way 997TT>z06 on the 'ring' for certain.
 
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Originally Posted by xlr8ion
I just spent the weekend at PIR Raceway with my 07 z06. I did not get passed by any porsches but passed many. Other than the cgt no other porsche will touch this car at the track sorry.
That's absolutely worthless information.
 
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That's absolutely worthless information.
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Thats funny, because on stock suspension and stock tires the 997TT is faster around the 'ring' than the new z06 by almost 3 seconds(7:42.9 for the z06 and 7:40 for the 997TT). Thats a track, and its NOT faster. Porsche instill more confidence to the driver and are MUCH more stable at speeds above 100 mph. i have heard from plenty of people who own or have driven and say the vette un quite unstable at high speeds where the Porsche is planted esceptionally well.
i dont see a reason why 997tt would be more stable than z06?
 
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i dont see a reason why 997tt would be more stable than z06?
Just the way the suspension tuning is set up and also the aerodynamics also plays a factor. I drove a C6 (not a Z06) and it didn't feel as "composed" as the 997TT did at high speeds.
 
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Originally Posted by Raz5219
I love everything the car stands for and what it's capable of. But in the end, I wouldn't own one. It's just not my type of car. Maybe I'd but it as a third or fourth backup after the P car, F car and L car
Yep, it's a no apology production number car that Porsche is unable to make in successful quantity because of the Porsche demographics.

Stick only? How would a "sports car" driver survive in a stick shift only car?

Completely defeatable traction control? You mean, it is actually off, not like PSM when it just lies and tells you that it's off?

Wow, you mean, Chevy made a track ready car with dry sump ALMS engine car for less than the price of a wet sump pretender punched out Boxster POS regular 997's?

The cross shopping happens more with the GT2/3 owners than Turbo owners for the above two reasons.

The Z06 is much closer to the GT2/3 philosophy, and whilst the roof might fly off, at least it comes without a retarded sunroof, unlike the 997 American bling bling GT3 with mandatory hole on the roof of a pretender "track car."

In short, if I could not have afforded the GT2, I would not have thought twice about getting the Z06. There is nothing else in the P car world that comes close in the 997 iteration.

And yes, this coming from a guy who owned a 996 Turbo stick shift for 3 years. The driving experience in the end, was just too uninvolving with PSM and AWD.
 
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Thats funny, because on stock suspension and stock tires the 997TT is faster around the 'ring' than the new z06 by almost 3 seconds(7:42.9 for the z06 and 7:40 for the 997TT). Thats a track, and its NOT faster. Porsche instill more confidence to the driver and are MUCH more stable at speeds above 100 mph. i have heard from plenty of people who own or have driven and say the vette un quite unstable at high speeds where the Porsche is planted esceptionally well.
Part of the P car driving experience used to be the sledge hammer oversteer that requires some skills. A 964 Turbo will pimp slap talentless drivers and FedEx that said driver to the ditch, whereas the 996/7 Turbos would go "oh, you meant, you wanted to go that way. OK, I will do it for you."

The AWD and the PSM have made the Turbo a no skills required fast car that is just not that fun to drive any more.

In cars like the Z06 or the GT2/3, if you are fast on the track, you know it's all you.

In cars like the Turbo, well, was it me or was it the PSM? Or was it the AWD? Or was it, oh, forget it.
 
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by subwaysam
I have had the good fortune to have most every sports car you would ever want... NSX is my favorite, 7 of them over the years, 4 996 turbo's (2 "regular" 1 X50, 1 GT2), Ferrari 360 F1, and yes, last but not least, several C5 corvette's, and my latest, a 2006 Z06. One Porsche (Cayenne turbo), 2 NSX and one Ferrari have all been bought, loved, and sold in the same 10 months or so, that I have had the ZO6 (my cars ...syncinccars.com) .. I dont drink, smoke, travel, golf, fish, etc...just cars...very expensive, but rewarding addiction!

The Z06 is quite amazing..raw HP, not too many creature comforts, terrible seat bottoms... but man is that bow tie fast..a joy to drive. However, I have patiently been waiting for my 997TT...I have a white tip coming in soon. I miss the pure romance of the Porsche. The Ferrari was on my list to have, I did, just was not me. I felt like a poser in it..was not me at all. Fun car, but not near as fun as the Z06.

The Z06 will stay side by side the 997TT...after a few months I will decide what to do next. Please, don't be fooled by the good ol' boy cliche's. The Z06 is an amazing car, at ANY price, against ANY car in the world...hands down. It just FEELS faster than anything I have ever even sat in..including being a passenger of Hurley Haywood in a PCA Porsche GT.... he scared the sh*t out of me, but the car still did not feel as fast as this Z06...

Take it from me, get one

I love them all...

just my .02
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If you are going through beautiful cars like that don't you have the jack to keep one of each?
 
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