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Old May 13, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cannga
Car & Driver in their June 2007 long term test of a Boxter with PCCB states the brake is "reluctant" when wet or in the rain. For PCCB owners: How big/frequent of a problem is this please? For example, is it enough to make you not drive your car in the rain? Or cause you to have to frequently tap the brake to make sure it works when it's raining? Thanks in advance. The time is near for me to place my order for my turbo *daily driver*. PCCB is the last big decision I have to make. (Sorry for the cross post in other forums.)
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I had PCCB on my '05 Turbo "S" Cab and they were awful in the rain, to the point where many times I thought I would end up in the rear of the car in front of me. It almost felt like there was no response when tapping the brake.
 
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Hi ESK,

Thank you for the feedback. I am puzzled. I have reasons to assume all posters here are experienced drivers who know a thing or two about driving and braking response , yet why do the responses vary so much?!

I hope we'd all agree that "I thought I would end up in the rear of the car in front of me" would make PCCB a no go for a daily driver in Los Angeles?

Thanks for the comments. Please keep them coming.


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I had PCCB on my '05 Turbo "S" Cab and they were awful in the rain, to the point where many times I thought I would end up in the rear of the car in front of me. It almost felt like there was no response when tapping the brake.
 
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Originally Posted by cannga
Hi ESK,

Thank you for the feedback. I am puzzled. I have reasons to assume all posters here are experienced drivers who know a thing or two about driving and braking response , yet why do the responses vary so much?!

I hope we'd all agree that "I thought I would end up in the rear of the car in front of me" would make PCCB a no go for a daily driver in Los Angeles?

Thanks for the comments. Please keep them coming.
Gen I vs. Gen. II??
 
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I believe 2005 Turbo S is gen II; I've read it here somewhere.

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Gen I vs. Gen. II??
 
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After washing the car, I notice that you have to be careful if you drive it right away.
Same here, but no problems in the rain. Weird, but manageable.
 
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Has anyone had tires changed at a place other than the dealer and had any damage as a result?
 
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Originally Posted by cannga
Hi ESK,

Thank you for the feedback. I am puzzled. I have reasons to assume all posters here are experienced drivers who know a thing or two about driving and braking response , yet why do the responses vary so much?!

I hope we'd all agree that "I thought I would end up in the rear of the car in front of me" would make PCCB a no go for a daily driver in Los Angeles?

Thanks for the comments. Please keep them coming.
To be fair, it only drizzled that whole day at the track. But on the way home I drove through a massive cloud burst, about 45 min worth. Still no issues.
 
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To be fair, it only drizzled that whole day at the track. But on the way home I drove through a massive cloud burst, about 45 min worth. Still no issues.
Myself included and on the twisty route we were on as well, Gen I still no problems!
 
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Is that an error or is it REALLY REALLY REALLY 11,387?! You make me like such a noob. In fact, I bet you make everyone feel like a noob!
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Myself included and on the twisty route we were on as well, Gen I still no problems!
 

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Love my PCCBs. No issues whatsoever in the rain, and we get plenty here in Arkansas. Also, the reduction in unsprung weight is significant. Absolutely order your car with them.
 
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a little off topic but, is there an aftermarket CCB kit? and if yes, is it cost effective?
 
Old May 14, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Someone corrects me if I am wrong: yes there is, and the cost (as I recall reading somewhere) is around (??) 17,000 US $. Whatever it is, I think it is much more than getting the brake with your initial order. If you search this forum and rennlist/rennteam, I am sure you will find it.

Cost effective? I don't know, that is why I am posting more questions.

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a little off topic but, is there an aftermarket CCB kit? and if yes, is it cost effective?
 
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Look at how long the PCCB'S are supposed to last. If they truly last 100,000 - 200,000 (not sure the projected miles) miles than to me they are worth it. Plus all the other benefits it is a no brainer.

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Thanks everyone. I really appreciate your advices. I am now a little off topic here (and yes I've searched and read up on previous PCCB posts), but I think the answer to the following questions will help all of us "on the fence" :

I've noted that "better brake feel" and "car feels snappier" being mentioned. Stopping distances between steel and ceramic being the same, these then are the only reasons for me to get this brake, performance wise (leaving issues of maintenance cost, brake dust, and "look" out of the equations for the time being).

For those who have used both steel and ceramic, are these differences significant and could be felt even with regular street driving? Or they are subtle, of the "I am not so sure" kind?

And is it true the brake doesn't work as well during the first few minutes of use?

Please keep the comments coming and thanks for your time!

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