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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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I am not sure I really want to know the answer to this, but...........is this system better than the Tech Art coilover system that works with the factory PASM?
 
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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I am not sure I really want to know the answer to this, but...........is this system better than the Tech Art coilover system that works with the factory PASM?

Depends on who you ask...

I would describe this as a Stg. 4 suspension upgrade.

Stg. 1- Spring replacement

Stg. 2- Spring and shock replacement

Stg. 3- Coilovers (Bilstein that work with PASM)

Stg. 4- Independant compression and rebound adjustable shocks / elimination of PASM (Moton Clubsport)

Stg. 5- Moton Clubsport - Cup Control Arms - Complete ERP package
 
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Originally Posted by Al Pettee
Mike,

Any preliminary thoughts on if the Moton's could be installed on the 997GT2? Presumably one could turn off the PASM on the GT2 with the SC system still working.

Thanks.

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I'm sure something can be done.
 
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You too, thanks.

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Forgot to ask. What type of car do you have the Motons on?
 
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Email me, please. Let me know your intended use and I will custom tailor a kit for you. I have done many 996TT's and a few GT3's.

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Thanks Mike, but i already have a set on mine. I just paid more for less, that's why i asked.
 
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Thanks Mike, but i already have a set on mine. I just paid more for less, that's why i asked.
Ah! Now I understand.
 
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mike, great package.
guys, the price is reasonable., i have had 4 sets of motons on a varierty of cars, this is a great product and moton's after sales support is unparalleled. when one of my shock failed, the new one was air freighted to me over night.

when my bank account recovers, i will moton'd my RS.
 
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Mike,

I am glad that you made a product where PASM isn't part of the package for one big reason. Why have it when you have complete adjustability with compression and rebound. I started to ask this question to myself because I am considering a street coilover kit. If I tracked even 4 times a year I would consider the Moton's hands down. I wanted just a lowered street look with some comfort. I know the springs are not the way to go in regards to the next level but I can't justify $6-7 for what essentially is a 1" drop

I know H&R has a coilover kit - pre fabricated without adjustable rebound or compression.

Why is everyone when it comes to adjustable coilovers so hung up on PASM?

I thought the reason behind a coilover it to set the compression/rebound and then drive it. Why change the dynamics once you hav dialed it in and then stiffen it up and change it with a push of the button?

I am a noob when it comes to the technical jargon but I think I understand the concepts.

Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by mooty
mike, great package.
guys, the price is reasonable., i have had 4 sets of motons on a varierty of cars, this is a great product and moton's after sales support is unparalleled. when one of my shock failed, the new one was air freighted to me over night.

when my bank account recovers, i will moton'd my RS.
We can help. Keep me posted.

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Uh, if your car touches the street, I wouldn't put these on it. Unless you want them to be rebuilt twice a year.

Moton makes great stuff, but it belongs on the track.
 
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Originally Posted by ALPINE_997
Mike,

I am glad that you made a product where PASM isn't part of the package for one big reason. Why have it when you have complete adjustability with compression and rebound. I started to ask this question to myself because I am considering a street coilover kit. If I tracked even 4 times a year I would consider the Moton's hands down. I wanted just a lowered street look with some comfort. I know the springs are not the way to go in regards to the next level but I can't justify $6-7 for what essentially is a 1" drop

I know H&R has a coilover kit - pre fabricated without adjustable rebound or compression.

Why is everyone when it comes to adjustable coilovers so hung up on PASM?

I thought the reason behind a coilover it to set the compression/rebound and then drive it. Why change the dynamics once you hav dialed it in and then stiffen it up and change it with a push of the button?

I am a noob when it comes to the technical jargon but I think I understand the concepts.

Thanks.


in most case you are probably right, if you dont know what you are doing and dont set it up correctly, they can and will be worse, but if you do, its night and day. you have dials for rebound and compression for that very reason, to adjust for different driving conditions. say your driving at high speeds with large dips you will want to slow down your compression and rebound so the car doesnt hop, but if your on some tight stutter bumps you will want to speed it up a bit so the suspension can recover quicker. hope that helps.
 

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Originally Posted by mitchelrl
Uh, if your car touches the street, I wouldn't put these on it. Unless you want them to be rebuilt twice a year.

Moton makes great stuff, but it belongs on the track.


i disagree, they make great stuff for track and street, you may not need to got triple adjustable and heavy springs but they will perform better than stock. oh and yes with a soft cush ride.
 
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Originally Posted by mitchelrl
Uh, if your car touches the street, I wouldn't put these on it. Unless you want them to be rebuilt twice a year.

Moton makes great stuff, but it belongs on the track.
Um... Not sure what your talking about, the Moton rep told me they should be rebuilt every 5 years and that's with significant track time each year.
 
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