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Old 11-29-2016, 11:57 AM
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Dive Planes for 997TT

Purchased a bumper a few weeks ago to do some development work on the 997 turbo. I now have dive planes completed and ready to go the 997 TT. They look very similar to all the other models I have except for the fit on the bumper. This bumper has a lot more shape along the sides and I needed to take an impression of all the curves to get the dive planes to match. My regular selling price for dive planes is 175 for FRP and 300 in carbon fiber. As an initial offering to get some pieces on cars they are going out at 20% discount. Pricing for the first ten sets is 140 for FRP and 240 for the carbon fiber.

Next up is a splitter similar to my 996 two piece splitters.

Here's a look at the new dive planes.
 
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Nice work Joe. How are these attached/fastened?
 
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Generally 3M two sided tape. Some guys do use fasteners.
 
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Originally Posted by Joe Toth
Generally 3M two sided tape. Some guys do use fasteners.


I have been looking for these for a while. Very nice!


3M tape would be enough to hold up under the pressure of air at speed?


Wouldn't it not just bend back wards from the force of the air instead of actually adding down force not being solidly mounted to the bumper?
 

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Looks great Joe, can't wait to see the splitter design.
 
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Originally Posted by Bobbyfali
I have been looking for these for a while. Very nice!


3M tape would be enough to hold up under the pressure of air at speed?


Wouldn't it not just bend back wards from the force of the air instead of actually adding down force not being solidly mounted to the bumper?
While dive planes/canards can add a modest amount of downforce at the front, in most applications the primary function is to introduce/generate vortices along the sides of the car, which helps keep air from getting under the car from the sides (causing lift). In this respect, they complement the role of side skirts. They can also help direct air away from the already turbulent air flow at the front wheels.
 
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While dive planes/canards can add a modest amount of downforce at the front, in most applications the primary function is to introduce/generate vortices along the sides of the car, which helps keep air from getting under the car from the sides (causing lift). In this respect, they complement the role of side skirts. They can also help direct air away from the already turbulent air flow at the front wheels.
yep, exactly. The canards themselves do not produce a lot of downforce, but they hugely reduce lift. my car is 10 times more stable at 150mph with them than without.
 

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Originally Posted by mavila
While dive planes/canards can add a modest amount of downforce at the front, in most applications the primary function is to introduce/generate vortices along the sides of the car, which helps keep air from getting under the car from the sides (causing lift). In this respect, they complement the role of side skirts. They can also help direct air away from the already turbulent air flow at the front wheels.
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yep, exactly. The canards themselves do produce a lot of downforce, but the hugely reduce lift. my car is 10 times more stable at 150mph with them than without.


You learns something everyday!


So just 3M'ing them on is sufficient or bolting them on?
 
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Screwed up on mine. ment to said they do not produce a lot of downforce but hugely reduce lift.

as for mountin, personally I'd suggest bolting and taping. I made a mount for the inside of the billet and tapped that on. Then used bolts to boot the canard on and also double sided 3m tape. I wanted to be able to take them off if need to pick mph up at a 1/2 mile or mile event.



 
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Originally Posted by Joe Toth
Purchased a bumper a few weeks ago to do some development work on the 997 turbo. I now have dive planes completed and ready to go the 997 TT. They look very similar to all the other models I have except for the fit on the bumper. This bumper has a lot more shape along the sides and I needed to take an impression of all the curves to get the dive planes to match. My regular selling price for dive planes is 175 for FRP and 300 in carbon fiber. As an initial offering to get some pieces on cars they are going out at 20% discount. Pricing for the first ten sets is 140 for FRP and 240 for the carbon fiber.

Next up is a splitter similar to my 996 two piece splitters.

Here's a look at the new dive planes.
I shot you a message, I'm interested in some CF ones =D
 
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Looks cool. Do you have them that contour to the GT2 bumper?


Also, were they a factory option at some point or standard on GT2RS at one time?
 



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