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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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So question for those of you that have the GT3 control arms. I am getting the PSS damptronic coil-overs for my C2S pretty soon. My car is a daily driver and I do enjoy driving it hard and going on drives with other P-car enthusiasts about once a month. Is there anything else that you would absolutely recommend doing in making the handling better? aftermarket sways? GT3 control arms? What does all this stuff cost?
Anyone have some input on this?
 
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blakt out
See, I am running the GT3 control arms (I assume this because mine have shims) but we are running them all the way out. I'm getting right at -3 as well. So, by this, you shouldn't have any trouble at all with the range you're talking about. I have my alignment sheet somewhere around here (from Synergy Racing) and am going some off of memory. But I agree with everything 58 says. The car isn't nervous at all, but turn in is SO much better. I also have Fabryce's dogbones on the rear, too. I love the way the car feels. 58, are you running nitrogen in your tires? I currently am not. My Michelin Cups are heating up so much (although evenly) that the front are climbing 15 or 16 and the rears a few degrees more even. Is this normal?
Blakt Out, if you change to nitrogen in your tires you will get 1/3 the increase than with air. makes for more consistent tire pressures. then you can go with slightly lower pressure when cold and your first lap scrub them up to temp and 2nd lap on the gas :-)

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Farnbacher set up my car for street / track. About -2 degrees up front, -1.8 rear. Cup control arms required with 3mm shims. No change to rear. Total was about $1200 for parts, labor, and new alignment.
 
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RonCT - I am can't PM you because I am a new member and my post count is too low. I am in CT also and was wondering where you got your car. I am about to place an order. I noticed in one of your prior posts that you got a fairly hefty discount. Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by RonCT
Farnbacher set up my car for street / track. About -2 degrees up front, -1.8 rear. Cup control arms required with 3mm shims. No change to rear. Total was about $1200 for parts, labor, and new alignment.
Same setup as I got recommended at Farnbacher by Kip when I bought the the 997 cup arms and control arms, but I was told to replace the orignal 10mm shims with 7mm shims. I'm also installing the Bilstein PSS by the end of the month so I guess our setup should be very similar

Whats your experience with tyrewear so far and handling so far? I'm a bit worried about to much tyre wear on the inside, but Kip says that it shouldn't be any problem because the 997 can handle aggressive cambers without much tyre wear. I also hope that the car is not too nervous outside track.
 
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It all depends on where you set your camber. Kip set mine as I asked - street / track. So I only have about -1.8 front and -1.6 rear. Much crisper and better handling than stock, but also there's still plenty of understeer there for safety margin (want to drive it home). Tire wear has been fine after about 5500 miles with the arms.
 
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also thinking of getting the control arms. have you actually gotten better track times with the setup or just a better feel?

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Well, there's no easy way to answer your question. I'd say of course track times dramatically improved simply because without camber, the front tires pushed into massive understeer. But there's no "before and after" comparison that I can offer...
 
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Well, there's no easy way to answer your question. I'd say of course track times dramatically improved simply because without camber, the front tires pushed into massive understeer. But there's no "before and after" comparison that I can offer...
Ditto. Don't have rock solid times (I do, but there were other factors as well). But control arms, better set up, and stickier tires brought me down 12 seconds per lap at VIR, but I was learning the track much better too. However, there's no doubt, NO DOUBT, that camber is one of the best ways to get lower track times. Whether through the control arms or something else, you MUST have camber.
 
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thanks and will take the advice and get the arms..
btw RONCT, what did you get as a dedicated track car?

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and before i get the final camber settings, anyone out there have a 997S and could recommend their settings of camber and toe before going thru the dealership agony of back and forth and trial and error. they charge a lot every time i change the alignment...thanks pdf file would be great if you have the actual setup sheet
 
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Picked up a 92 C2 that was about 80% the way to being converted into a quasi-RS / US Cup. Car weighs in at 2800 lbs now including power steering, AC / heat, and sunroof and is pushing at 300 hp.
 
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and thanks blakt out...love the truck
 
Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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i am jealous i wanna air cooled carrera for the track!

good luck with that..

wish i ahd a good chop like you do as my car is stillunder warranty and don't want to make any major changes except at the dealership as ...long as i do stuff there, they seem to be very liberal in my warranty coverage (changed out rotors once for me under warranty from track use)
 
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