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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sven
...there had been a series of robberies at banks near the freeway with quick getaways...

I have heard "drive it like you stole it", but never "drive it like you robbed a bank".
 
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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No comments to the DriveMeCrazy iPhone app, reply #31 ?
To be honest, I thought it was something from a board advertiser and skipped over it until you just called our attention to it. What the hell is it?

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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To be honest, I thought it was something from a board advertiser and skipped over it until you just called our attention to it. What the hell is it?

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It is an IPhone app (perhaps Android too) that is used to report 'bad drivers' to the cops/DMV. Simply insane and it should be abolished. And have no doubt there are snitches out there using it. Please follow this LINK to learn more.
 
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by adias
It is an IPhone app (perhaps Android too) that is used to report 'bad drivers' to the cops/DMV. Simply insane and it should be abolished. And have no doubt there are snitches out there using it. Please follow this LINK to learn more.
No, I'd rather not. Depressing milestone on the road to 1984, albeit a quarter century late.

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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BlinkGone
The bottom line is, the officer has to see it happen in these types of situations, or it has to be corroborated on video. "Reports" are one thing; concurrence from firsthand-witness by LE eyes, documented on video, and/or a confession from a guilty party are another.
Not quite. The key is to always try and be polite to the police officer, because you're sunk if the officer doesn't like you. Otherwise, he might lie and say you confessed to him that you did it. That's often the only "proof" that the judge/prosecutor needs. It happens all the time...

(As an aside, remember to always be polite, but that the police are NOT your friend. They're there to arrest people. Outside of a minor traffic stop, or a polite greeting, you should NEVER talk to a police officer...period..)
 
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by simsgw
Depends on the state and the parking lot. In California, businesses can grant the local Sheriff or municipal police jurisdiction over their parking facilities. At one time they had to post a sign next each entrance saying something to that effect. Probably still do.

Malls here routinely do this.

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They're typically very small signs (the size of no parking signs) that say local police monitor these premises. Unless you look for them you'd never notice.
 
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Not quite. The key is to always try and be polite to the police officer, because you're sunk if the officer doesn't like you. Otherwise, he might lie and say you confessed to him that you did it. That's often the only "proof" that the judge/prosecutor needs. It happens all the time...

(As an aside, remember to always be polite, but that the police are NOT your friend. They're there to arrest people. Outside of a minor traffic stop, or a polite greeting, you should NEVER talk to a police officer...period..)
You have had a depressing life, my friend.

As far as traffic stops go, even if we suppose someone would care to perjure himself over a misdemeanour -- which is scarcely plausible in itself -- you must remember that every stop is recorded on video in most U.S. jurisdictions. They will present a record of what you said in court if you contest a ticket, and conversely an officer has a great deal of trouble interfering with this automatic recording. It is intentionally arranged that way to deal with much more serious issues than your ticket.

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Originally Posted by hockeyguy4u
Not quite. The key is to always try and be polite to the police officer, because you're sunk if the officer doesn't like you. Otherwise, he might lie and say you confessed to him that you did it. That's often the only "proof" that the judge/prosecutor needs. It happens all the time...

(As an aside, remember to always be polite, but that the police are NOT your friend. They're there to arrest people. Outside of a minor traffic stop, or a polite greeting, you should NEVER talk to a police officer...period..)
Yes, ALWAYS be polite, and I agree- remember that with them having the badge, they can do what they want, and let the courts sort it our later, whether they are right or wrong.
 
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcc1999
They're typically very small signs (the size of no parking signs) that say local police monitor these premises. Unless you look for them you'd never notice.
Any LE officer has jurisdiction over a private or commercial lot (off of public streets) with regards to general crime. Traffic laws are a whole 'nother issue, unless that is granted by the owner of that commercial or private property or is allowed for in state law. There are some "gray areas", though, as in endangerment of others, etc- such as some idiot blowing across a crowded pkg lot at mid-day doing say, 30+ mph...

Back 30 yrs ago, I had a LE officer tell me that, aside from verbally warning somebody speeding in a pkg lot, there wasn't anything he could do unless there was a direct threat to others around them. In another incident, I was also involved in a vehicle accident case that was in a pkg lot, and told directly by the presiding judge that traffic laws did NOT apply in the parking lot, as it was off public roads. Both cases were in CA.
 

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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by simsgw
You have had a depressing life, my friend.

As far as traffic stops go, even if we suppose someone would care to perjure himself over a misdemeanour -- which is scarcely plausible in itself -- you must remember that every stop is recorded on video in most U.S. jurisdictions. They will present a record of what you said in court if you contest a ticket, and conversely an officer has a great deal of trouble interfering with this automatic recording. It is intentionally arranged that way to deal with much more serious issues than your ticket.

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Actually, the police have had a long history of perjuring themselves over misdemeanours when they know they have the upper hand. Gay entrapment comes to mind, where a lot of those guys entrapped and arrested had a lot to lose if they if they fought the charges (public indecency, or solicitation?) and thus revealed themselves. In fact, I read that in N.J. the cops actually extorted cash from them on the spot.

However, I'm sure that the vast majority of cops are honest and hardworking... but having that much power corrupts some. Thank God for cellphone cameras and videos, it helps keep a check on police abuse, since now we citizens can potentially at least document some stuff...(However, there is a bad side too. Now the police can hunt you down and LEGALLY track you or any citizen's exact location at any time from your cellphone signal via GPS. Scary stuff, thanks to the Patriot Act...)
 

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