Interesting 0-100 mph data etc

Road and Track shows the Porsche GT3RS doing 0-100 in 9.2 with the M3 at 9.4 in the road test summary...not too dusty. In the most recent test of a GT3RS (March issue) they tested a GT3RS against a C2S where the GT3RS did 0-100 in 9.0, but even a .4 difference speaks highly about the little M3's performance....the C2S did 0-100 in 10.3 almost a full second slower. The Q/M trap speed of the M3 was 114.8 mph and the C2S in the March test was 111.9 mph; even using the C2S's best #'s from the old R&t test the little M3 had the same trap speed in the Q/M.

The M3 will be a force to be reckoned with on the street* or drap strip. I am very curious to see how much the DFI 997's # will improve over the current cars.






* I do not endorse street racing.

 

the m3 isnt that fast, its a 10 second 0-100, they did a test a while ago and they showed the 997 GT3 vs m3, and from the pull, the GT3 pulled on it like it was standing still. no way the m3 will ever keep up with a GT3, or 996TT. US mags always get times that are never replicated. go by evos times and the m3 never runs as fast. they just tested the m3, c63 amg and is-f, both the os-f and c63 were faster to 100 mph, and trapped 2 mph faster than the m3, heres the test.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b0hVJgMQ2VA
watch the drag, the GT3 walked it like a little *****.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...fications.html

m3 wasnt the fastest, didnt trap the highest, didnt brake the best, but was better on a track (as it should be given its nature and wieght advantage).

 

The power to weight ratios of these cars is extremely close, if you can take advantage of the 997S's traction advantage it will probably just inch by a M3.

Either way I personally think the M3 is the best bang for the buck for a marquee name vehicle.

Dave

 

No doubt about it.

 

I'm not sure I agree, but if what you are saying is true then the #'s are not accurate for all the cars they test including Porsches right?

 

I guess what's good for the goose...

 

I test drove the E92 M-3 this week. More impressive than expected. Superb engine.Better seats than E46 and better ride than E46 or CS in reg. mode. Tough to judge on a test ride with a salesman on board BUT it seemed like more of the same. The car is more solid than the E46 and it feels like the handling limits are higher. Steering very light at low speeds. Brakes good but lacking in pedal feel. Shifting a bit rubbery and clutch very light.

I like the car and had I not gone from the E46 to a CS, my perception might be different. To me the Porsche is much more "alive" in my hands. Everything about its driving dynamics is more direct and communicative.

Perhaps if I could wrap myself around the styling inside and out and if the M weren't so heavy, I would not be a lukewarm about the new M-3.

Value--yes--in pure bang for buck--M-3 wins. But TO ME, the added value in the P car is how I feel about it. When I look at in in my garage, when I am walking to it in a parking lot, etc. all I keep thinking is ---wow--that's MY car. That warm fuzzzy feeling is worth the extra $$. I like M-3s alot but I love the 997S. (ps..no one ever sat in the back seat of my M-3 the 4 years I owned it)

 

Geez, how are all you guy's getting to test drive these cars, the dealers around here are keeping miles off them unless you make a firm deal subject to the test drive.

 

I went up there to get some oil for my MINI S. I just wanted to see it up close and personal. The car was sitting out front with a plate on it. I asked the salesman when the converts were coming. He said---60-90 days--do you want to test drive the coupe?

While on the test drive we did discuss other stealers marking up and selling their demos. This dealership plays by the rules. IMHO--test drives sell cars and well run businesses think big picture.

I have a friend with a deposit on a car at another local dealer and they won't let him test drive one. If that was me, I'd take my deposit back and go elsewhere.

 

Couldn't agree more, here in S FL there's just too much money around and the demand for nice cars is very high so the dealers can get away with all kinds of things.

 

When I have a moment, I'll go dry the one near my house. There are 2 dealerships under the United name (www.unitedbmw.com) - both are owned by Roger Penske, both are part of a publicly traded company, and neither is allowed to mark up over MSRP.

 

New to this board and glad I found it because it is an incredible resource. I just ordered the new M3, but it will be a few months before it's in. In the meantime, the wife has finally given the ok for a P-car if it's the same price or cheaper. Have found an '07 C2 with ~2K miles for 69K, '06 C2 with 8K miles for 65K, and an '05 C2S with 4K miles for 69K. All are asking prices only of course. Am I crazy for considering a base C2 over the M3? The reason I'm even thinking this is that I live in the city and my e46 M3 has more than enough power for me and I probably don't need the extra HP of the V8...thanks

 

offer 60k for the '05 C2S and see what happens...

 

69k is about right for '07 C2 with basic options and <2k miles. I took mine ('07 C2 w/ 1k miles) for appraisal and will only get 62k for it. Dealer will make 5k or more for profit

 

Thanks. Figures, I call today and the '07 just sold. Oh well, still have a couple of months to look before I have to make any decisions. I will try to offer low 60s for the '05 C2S...